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18 teachers injured, some hospitalized after breaking up fights at local school district, union says
WPXI ^ | November 8, 2019

Posted on 11/08/2019 7:51:28 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

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To: Afterguard
Because the school systems are having a hard time keeping good teachers in violent schools they bring in people unqualified to teach. They use to be called subs, assistants etc... now they're there as many hours as the teachers. Since classes can't be disciplined or controlled - - it doesn't make any difference if the person at the head of the class knows anything, can teach, runs movies every class, or is trained.

The solution is for education professionals to grow backbones and stand up and say 'violent behavior is wrong - no matter what race the person is'... and stand by that EVEN if the majority of violent kids are black.

21 posted on 11/08/2019 8:14:12 AM PST by GOPJ (Every election that's statistically 'too close' to call will go to democrats. Fraud works for dems.)
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To: Afterguard

Well, since “paralegals” are legal assistants, I think people are probably just using “para” as a new fancy way to avoid saying “secretary”.


22 posted on 11/08/2019 8:14:27 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Afterguard

> What the he!! is a “para-professional”? <

I’ll field that one. In my neck of the woods anyway, a para-professional is a full-time school employee who job it is to assists teachers. In some cases they replace a teacher where a teacher really isn’t necessary.

For example, a hallway monitor would be a para-professional. And so would someone who assists in a special education class. In that latter case, the para would help the kids with routine stuff, like getting their materials organized, etc.

The whole idea of para-professionals is a good one, as they save money for the taxpayers. You don’t need an expensive teacher to monitor a hallway. A para can do the job just as well.


23 posted on 11/08/2019 8:16:44 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

The thing that really irked me is that the church had hired 3 off-duty police officers to provide security for the fair. But they were nowhere to be seen when this pretty substantial brawl broke out. So I was compelled to step-in.

Off on an hour-long donut break I suppose.


24 posted on 11/08/2019 8:20:35 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The headline almost sounds like it was one massive fight and 18 teachers were hurt trying to break it up. It’s still indicative of the times, though. 18 separate incidents equal a signal that order must be restored.

When I taught high school (30 yrs, BTW), I once broke up a fight in my classroom between two football players. They were otherwise good guys, they just had a football-practice-related grudge. Anyway, they were throwing desks at each other. It happened really fast; of course, I intervened and got my glasses broken. Afterward, they cooled down and apologized profusely to me and to the class. And they pitched in together to get me a new pair of glasses. Those were different times; I think it was in the early ‘90s.


25 posted on 11/08/2019 8:22:00 AM PST by Migraine
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To: Leaning Right
Unions are far from perfect. We all know that. But this story shows where unions can be useful.

A true statement. They CAN be useful in a situation like this.

However, in my experience with unions (teacher unions and other), the union will make no effort to help the teachers. Injuries? Who cares? The union isn't really there to represent the teachers. The union is there for two reasons: 1) The Union represents the union and 2) The union collects dues and sends most of the money to the DNC.

I would not expect the union to lift a finger to protect teachers from violent students.

26 posted on 11/08/2019 8:23:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Boogieman

Good idea. Either that or go back to what it was like when I was a pup—hit a teacher, get expelled. The next school you attended would be called a reform school.


27 posted on 11/08/2019 8:24:50 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Leaning Right
You don’t need an expensive teacher to monitor a hallway. A para can do the job just as well.

especially if they can effectively use a flame thrower to put down unruly mobs.

Some years ago I had to retrieve my step son from the local high due to a medical issue. I entered amid a din that was indescribable. Checking in with the “resource officer” I was hustled aside as two coppers were leaving with one “student” in restraints. I asked the RO, is this a usual. He said no, today is it relatively quiet! This did not occur in an inner city school but one of our better schools in this state. I thought back 50 years and could not equate school in my era to what passes for school behavior today.

28 posted on 11/08/2019 8:27:19 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Leaning Right

Okay, thanks to all that put me in the know. Lol!


29 posted on 11/08/2019 8:30:05 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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> This is what happens when you get teacher’s unions running the show. <

I think you miss my point. Yes, unions can create problems. But when it comes to school violence, they have absolutely no impact or influence. All they can do is shine light on the situation from the sidelines.

School violence exists only because administrators turn a blind eye to it. Those guys are rewarded for keeping suspensions low. They are not rewarded for keeping their schools safe.

Side story: I once worked with a vice-principal who was not of that mold. He actually cared about school safety. Well, one day a knife fight broke out in the school. He immediately called the city police (a good move).

The next day this vice-principal got a call from the superintendent. He was told that if he ever called the city police again, he would be fired.

Why? When the city police are involved, it will make the local news. Can’t have that happen!


30 posted on 11/08/2019 8:31:02 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“They claim 18 teachers have been seriously injured in school this year, mostly from breaking up school fights. Some of them had to be hospitalized.

And they said the district isn’t doing anything about the problem. “

You pretend to teach.

The kids pretend to learn.

The parents pretend to care.

The school board pretends there is no problem.


31 posted on 11/08/2019 8:37:57 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: NorthstarMom

It’s not uncommon for some students’ IEP to require a one to one aide.
I would imagine it’s the paraprofessionals who receive the most injuries.


And if the kid’s IEP includes behavior disorders, it is highly unlikely he’ll be punished for injuring the paraprofessional.


32 posted on 11/08/2019 8:39:39 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: ClearCase_guy

> However, in my experience with unions (teacher unions and other), the union will make no effort to help the teachers. Injuries? Who cares? The union isn’t really there to represent the teachers. <

There is a lot of truth in that statement!

I have worked with union officials who were excellent, Johnny-on-the-spot types. If a teacher had a problem, they were at the school almost instantly.

But as you said, many union officials just don’t care. I’ve seen those types as well. Call them to report a problem, and they’re too busy to respond. After all, there is a Democrat fundraiser to attend.

That’s why I was happy to see the Supreme Court recently rule that membership in a teachers union cannot be mandatory. Hopefully, at least some teachers will just walk away from a bad union.


33 posted on 11/08/2019 8:44:59 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Kids need dicipline. Too bad that is considered “disrespectful”. These kids learn this behavior at home from their entitled parent(s).


34 posted on 11/08/2019 9:13:25 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Boogieman

“Well, since “paralegals” are legal assistants, I think people are probably just using “para” as a new fancy way to avoid saying “secretary”.”

Yup. Sort of like calling garbage men “sanitation engineers”.


35 posted on 11/08/2019 9:17:11 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Leaning Right

Senior managers are much more interested in covering up problems than solving them—and then they wonder why young people would rather work for AI machines....

The super is the one who should have been fired.


36 posted on 11/08/2019 10:01:28 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I lived fairly close to da hood in FL. There was an intersection visible from our front yard and one of the roads lead to a school. At least once a week, a deputy would come flying up with lights and siren on, block the road with his car and jump out with shotgun in hand, stand there for half an hour and then leave. Half the time an ambulance would go by while he was there.

That intersection had a 4 way stop and speed limit was 55 in one direction. Once a month someone would run the stop sign coming from da hood. Heard a big bada boom and someone would either be going to the hospital or the morgue.

Glad to be out of there. Living in rural Ozarks now and haven’t heard a siren in well over a year.


37 posted on 11/08/2019 10:15:03 AM PST by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

My Teacher friends are not allowed to break up fights - they are required to get an administrator or find another teacher to witness before they touch a student. It does not matter how serious the flight is, the teachers are not allowed to touch a student in any way.


38 posted on 11/08/2019 10:30:23 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: GOPJ
I've known teachers - the mystery is easy to solve: the thugs are black... and the administrations are afraid of being called 'racists'. Shame on the spineless administrators... they're NOT doing the kids, teachers or thugs any favors... by allowing this crap to go on...

Exactly right.

39 posted on 11/08/2019 11:52:22 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: aquila48

“Diversity is our greatest strength.”

Do dat b y native American Indians never fought each other ?

/sarc


40 posted on 11/08/2019 12:02:22 PM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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