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To: Olog-hai
IMHO, with 20-20 hindsight combined with wishful thinking, the U.S. staying completely out of European war and allowing Hitler to get England would then have allowed Germany to turn it's full military attention to the Soviet Union... The resulting subsequent 5-to-7 year war would have decimated both Germany and the Soviets to the point of a near oblivion that might have taken 75-to-100 years to recover from...

On the brighter side, the enormous casualties the U.S. suffered in Europe and north Africa would have been avoided...

Without having to fight two wars (Europe & Pacific), additional attention and resources (ships & airplanes) could have been brought to bear on the japs...

Finally, the loss of the Soviet Union as the key mentor to the implementation of communism worldwide would have crippled the large contingent of communists in the U.S. both as citizens and government officials... It may be likely that the successful foothold they have now gained in controlling large parts of the U.S. federal & state & municipal governments under the guise of the democrat party would not have been possible...

When the japs attacked the U.S. we had just one (1) foreign enemy... Then, for his own reasons, FDR and the communist-controlled state department made the Germans into an additional enemy...

Today, after expending untold trillions of dollars and unimaginable lives in a two (2) front WWII, we now have two (2) foreign enemies (China & Islam) and one (1) domestic enemy (communists) within the gates and having significant control throughout the U.S... All three (3) enemies with a huge presence in the U.S and seem to be itching to start a conflagration......

20 posted on 11/07/2019 6:09:57 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: SuperLuminal
IMHO, with 20-20 hindsight combined with wishful thinking, the U.S. staying completely out of European war and allowing Hitler to get England would then have allowed Germany to turn it's full military attention to the Soviet Union... The resulting subsequent 5-to-7 year war would have decimated both Germany and the Soviets to the point of a near oblivion that might have taken 75-to-100 years to recover from...

Germany would almost certainly have gotten the A-bomb, and used it on Russian cities. With a V3 or V4 rocket, possibly against us as well.

Then, for his own reasons, FDR and the communist-controlled state department made the Germans into an additional enemy...

Um...Hitler declared war on us, stupidly. Without that mistake, FDR could not have entered the European conflict.

27 posted on 11/07/2019 7:45:55 PM PST by montag813 (Sheri Bruder)
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To: SuperLuminal
the U.S. staying completely out of European war

Kind of hard to do when they declare war on you bub.

When the japs attacked the U.S. we had just one (1) foreign enemy... Then, for his own reasons, FDR and the communist-controlled state department made the Germans into an additional enemy...

See above.

Hitler declared war on US. We did not declare war on Germany until after that.

28 posted on 11/07/2019 7:52:46 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: SuperLuminal

Without Western intervention, The Nazis would have defeated the Commies. The Nazi state then would have had everything west of the Urals. That would have been a nightmare for generations at the very least.

The time for the US to stay out of European affairs was WWI. There were no Nazis, the Germans were not seeking territorial aggrandizement and were not seeking to take over. They were fighting a defensive war. It was the Russians/French who wanted to upset the apple cart, not the Germans. Had we stayed out of that war, very likely it would have ground to a reasonable negotiated settlement. There would have been no Versailles Treaty and no Hitler (at least politically) and no WWII.


32 posted on 11/07/2019 11:53:58 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: SuperLuminal

That outlook completely ignores the fact that Nazi Germany declared war on the USA in 1941.

It also ignores the fact that at it’s core, national and international socialism are the same thing.


36 posted on 11/08/2019 3:37:16 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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