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Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast.
MSN (New York Times ^ | October 14, 2019 | David E. Sanger

Posted on 10/14/2019 9:33:23 PM PDT by Reno89519

...snip... And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages. To fly them out of Incirlik would be to mark the de facto end of the Turkish-American alliance. To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

“I think this is a first — a country with U.S. nuclear weapons stationed in it literally firing artillery at US forces,” Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies wrote last week.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; alreadyposted; braking; brawndo; concerntroll; crapfest; didyousearch; erdogan; fakenews; nukes; syria; trollon; trump; turkey; yousuck
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To: Reno89519

100% CLOSE & EVAC INCIRLIK

Starting tomorrow.


21 posted on 10/14/2019 10:07:13 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Reno89519

I’m betting the Kurds requested this because they and Assad can go full offensive and show Turkey some ME hospitality for its actions in the ME.


22 posted on 10/14/2019 10:07:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: jospehm20
I'm not saying we should send our armor against Turkey. I'm asking questions about the whole mess. We're sitting ina genocidal country with 50 nukes and like tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousand US citizens, many service members, families, and contractors. Syria was a disaster, Kurds were helping us, now we've stepped aside to loose Turkey on them, Trump is inviting Russia and others to help the Kurds, etc. Disengaging, withdrawing from the region, might be good, but need it be so disorderly? And is the apparent breakup with Turkey intentional or an unintended consequence? Is this all plan or just poorly thought out?

And how long until someone says Trump stirred the pot to distract from impeachment?

23 posted on 10/14/2019 10:08:20 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Helicondelta

We should be equally opposed to Erdogan AND Assad. And Turkey in NATO and Turkey as ally needs serious reconsideration. Turkey needs to booted from NATO, it needs to be disarmed.


24 posted on 10/14/2019 10:10:54 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

“Disengaging, withdrawing from the region, might be good, but need it be so disorderly? ”

Yep.


25 posted on 10/14/2019 10:11:25 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Reno89519

If Turkey is booted from NATO they will join forces with Russia. They have done nothing wrong. They are just defending their border.


26 posted on 10/14/2019 10:15:39 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Helicondelta
Turkey has done nothing wrong?! If you really believe that, then I presume you object to sanctions President Trump is putting on Turkey? And objecting to his calls for a ceasefire? Etc.? So, if they have done nothing wrong, then maybe Trump did greenlight all of this, even if subtly?

I do not agree.

27 posted on 10/14/2019 10:23:42 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Reno89519

Trump proved why Turkey shouldn’t be in NATO.


28 posted on 10/14/2019 10:37:03 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Reno89519

We should have plans to destroy the Turk ready to act at a declaration of war from Congress and full funding.


29 posted on 10/14/2019 10:54:30 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Reno89519

Our alliance has been faced with what to do with Turkey and we have sat on our hands since 1973. This latest is a tiny blip compared to past Turkish actions.

I still recommend negotiating new alliances and then pulling the plug altogether on NATO.


30 posted on 10/14/2019 10:58:41 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Reno89519

Actually, I believe that the nukes were moved to Romania late in Obama’s administration.


31 posted on 10/14/2019 11:00:48 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Helicondelta

Why on earth would you want to help Erdogan?
Let them kill each other off.


32 posted on 10/14/2019 11:03:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Helicondelta

I tell you what.

Take yourself on a trip to Verosha and come back and tell us about how Turkey has done nothing wrong. And do that before you go trying to convince people who pay attention to the world as a whole about Turkey.


33 posted on 10/14/2019 11:08:39 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Reno89519

I say quietly remove the nukes. Then make a gradual withdrawal of US personnel from Turkey. Turkey is slowly changing from a secular republic to an Islamic state. At this point I don’t care if Russia did take them over!


34 posted on 10/14/2019 11:30:00 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: Helicondelta

No....they are not defending their border....they have crossed into Syria. That’s the wrong side of the border.


35 posted on 10/15/2019 1:05:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Reno89519

So nothing happened? That’s the gist of this article -nothing at all has happened


36 posted on 10/15/2019 1:13:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: MrEdd; Reno89519

I read another article citing the move to Romania, too. That article said these nukes are B61 gravity bombs with yields up to 170KT, way beyond a “tactical nuke.”


37 posted on 10/15/2019 1:27:28 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: jospehm20

Another BS writer.

Funny, how people like this gutless Mitt Romney are sitting back, waiting eagerly to criticize the president at every turn, hold off for any praise of our president when he does the right thing.

The only person you hear is Rand Paul.


38 posted on 10/15/2019 2:54:54 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Reno89519; All

So, we have panties-in-a-twist concern trolls using NYT and PBS stories to show that their wrong reads on the situation are actually “right”.....If you worked in the WH, we’d be wondering how the President could have hired such a backstabbing cretin...


39 posted on 10/15/2019 3:34:53 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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So cute, so early in the morning. Hoping to sneak something idiotic into our discussion? How does throwing in troll and insults further discussion?


40 posted on 10/15/2019 4:23:47 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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