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After rape, Klopfer aborted her baby. Now she wonders: Is her child one of the 2,200 he kept?
LIVE ACTION NEWS ^ | SEPT. 18, 2019 | Serena Dyksen

Posted on 09/19/2019 9:20:13 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

I get this Morgana
Most of us here get this and have compassion

But this woman needs to name her uncle....NOW

He shouldn’t be free to continue doing this

It all started with him


21 posted on 09/19/2019 10:47:12 AM PDT by Guenevere
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22 posted on 09/19/2019 10:49:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I do my best not to personally respond to your posts.

Stop harassing me.


23 posted on 09/19/2019 10:51:38 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: treetopsandroofs

Be glad that she is still willing to cast her pearls.


24 posted on 09/19/2019 11:07:39 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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First: make up a vile attitude and attribute it falsely to girl/woman in a published story

Second: call it harassment when somebody points this out

OK


25 posted on 09/19/2019 11:08:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I'm outta here.)
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To: Morgana

That.


26 posted on 09/19/2019 11:17:32 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Morgana
It’s not the end of the world just because a woman/girl got pregnant at the wrong time.

It should have been "the end of the world" for the creepy uncle. The wrong people were punished for his sins.

27 posted on 09/19/2019 11:21:23 AM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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YAWN
28 posted on 09/19/2019 11:21:48 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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LOL, I’m used to the tag team bullying, too.


30 posted on 09/19/2019 12:10:16 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Balding_Eagle

There is no other way to say the truth about something that is exceedingly harsh and cruel to innocent blood. They are not responsible for the circumstances of their lives.

I realize that there are such hard cases, rare though they may be and no justification for the vast majority of abortions, which is why I’ve opined that in them we still need to hold somebody criminally responsible for the death of the child and in this case it should be the rapist, who by negligence or intent essentially put their child at risk even if there were no abortion. This should be an added concurring crime in most any rape/molestation.

Because: screw them for screwing them!

Also, I believe in the case of false accusation the accuser should be liable for the same penalty that they accused. Same with perjury is someone knowingly lies to get a someone condemned that they know to be innocent.


31 posted on 09/19/2019 1:51:47 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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There is no other way to say the truth about something that is exceedingly harsh and cruel to innocent blood.

Sure there is.

It appears you have too cruel a spirit to be able to find sympathy for a young girl who was essentially raped and then rushed into having an abortion.

It hardly seems to reflect the Spirit of Christ.

This is why I usually stay off the Life threads.

32 posted on 09/19/2019 3:42:35 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Morgana

Yes. Evil is evil, and must be admitted and repented.


33 posted on 09/19/2019 4:39:41 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Telling the plain truth - sans euphemism - is sometimes necessary. Contrary to your assertion, soft-selling murder is a lie.

I have served in ministry. Have you? Have you paid a price for speaking the plain truth in love, instead of speaking a lie in the name of pseudo-love? (I lost the possibility of marriage to a woman because I refused to call abortion in the case of rape as an acceptable form of murder.)

Abortion is murder. Sin must be repented. Nota Bene: It cannot be repented if it is not acknowledged as sin!

Telling the plain truth is not necessarily cruel, and telling a cultured lie is not necessarily merciful.

If you actually read the Bible (do you?), you will find that Jesus was himself often “harsh” and “cruel” by your standard.

It is that very false spirit of misplaced (and selfish!) compassion that has allowed homoeroticism to gain such a strong hold in the institutionalized church.


34 posted on 09/19/2019 4:48:10 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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If you actually read the Bible (do you?), you will find that Jesus was himself often “harsh” and “cruel” by your standard.

It is that very false spirit of misplaced (and selfish!) compassion that has allowed homoeroticism to gain such a strong hold in the institutionalized church.

Jesus had compassion for the worldly woman at the well.

It doesn't mean we need to be compassionate to innocent young girls, but I do believe it is following in his footsteps to do so.

35 posted on 09/19/2019 5:29:01 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“This little girl was 13 when she got pregnant, and an abortion.

She deserves our sympathy, not our scorn.”

I so agree and it was her parents who took her there.

It’s one thing when young girls go for an abortion but when it’s the grandparents doing it? That really kills me because that is your grandbaby. Your grandbaby is your future legacy and you kill it? Why? That really boggles my mind.


36 posted on 09/19/2019 7:08:36 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

There is nothing cruel about it. Nor is there any lack of sympathy. But to dodge the truth, which is a cold and hard one, does no one any good, least of all those needing to come to term with what has been done.

To dance around the issue, with the possible outcome that you’re too sensitive to their feelings to risk their disapproval of you (never mind that she is likely not in this conversation), would be unmerciful. Not just towards this girl but towards those who might read the article (who are in this thread, even if not commenting) and decide abortions can be when they never really are.

As for this woman: she revealed the matter herself. This wasn’t someone else’s doing. Moreover comments here are not necessarily directed to her and the conversation does not insofar as I know involve her. Should her asserted feelings, which you don’t really know, rule here where she is not?


37 posted on 09/20/2019 7:16:21 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I avoid a lot of the Life thread because of what seems to me to be unnecessary cruelness and unchristian behavior towards people who, like this little girl, was pushed into something she was unprepared for because it was way beyond her years.

I’m done, feel free to continue to stone her without anymore push-back from me.


38 posted on 09/20/2019 5:03:11 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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