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Draco Destroyed. Video Of the Crash (Mike Patey'S Bush Plane)
Plane & Pilot ^ | September 16, 2019 | Staff

Posted on 09/18/2019 1:24:00 PM PDT by Rebelbase

Mike Patey and his wife Chandra are uninjured after Draco, the incredible turboprop STOL plane Mike Patey made, ground looped and was destroyed. Patey was taking off in very gusty conditions at Reno Stead, with winds registering to greater than 40 knots with a big crosswind component. The plane ground-looped as it was taking off, going off the side of the runway and spinning around, catching a wing and raising a cloud of dust.

Patey in another video blamed the crash on his own mistake in attempting the takeoff in the conditions.

Our hearts go out to Mike and his family on the loss of an incredible plane. At the same time, the biggest news is that no one was hurt.

Video at link or here on youtube.


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Ground loop in a high crosswind. Saw a video of him talking about the plane a few months ago. He said he's got about a million dollars in it.

Here's a video of him after the crash accepting full responsibility for attempting to fly in sketchy conditions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfctWAoDXvs

1 posted on 09/18/2019 1:24:00 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
Draco in better days.


2 posted on 09/18/2019 1:25:13 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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I’ve seen a few of his videos.

He made a big deal about the arched bands of steel installed under each wingtip, claiming they’d probably save the plane in the event of a groundloop.

Looks like they didn’t work as he’d hoped.


3 posted on 09/18/2019 1:26:18 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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He made a big deal about the arched bands of steel installed under each wingtip, claiming they’d probably save the plane in the event of a groundloop.

But he didn't ground loop. He got blown over by a severe crosswind while taking off.

4 posted on 09/18/2019 1:30:34 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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But he didn’t ground loop. He got blown over by a severe crosswind while taking off.


And when his right wingtip hit, he groublooped, then smacked the left wingtip, destroying the central spars.


5 posted on 09/18/2019 1:31:54 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Rebelbase

Hell of an Airplane, seen it up close a few times.

Started off as a Polish PZL 104 Wilga, already a very capable short takeoff and landing plane, and he went nuts from there. Added a jet turbine, bigger gear etc, etc, adn.


6 posted on 09/18/2019 1:32:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....ew)
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To: Rebelbase

Too bad. Cool plane. He should rebuild it it.


7 posted on 09/18/2019 1:32:21 PM PDT by semaj (We are the People)
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would any pilot attempt to take off in such strong crosswinds absent a life threatening emergency?


8 posted on 09/18/2019 1:37:27 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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“would any pilot attempt to take off in such strong crosswinds absent a life threatening emergency?”

Overconfidence in the airplane, and your own ability. It’s called “Ego”.


9 posted on 09/18/2019 1:39:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....ew)
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Not if the pilot has any air sense.

There are old pilots and bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots.


10 posted on 09/18/2019 1:39:47 PM PDT by Hulka
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Depends on the type airplane.

Tricycle gear, low wing,heavier...is one thing.

High wing tail dragger is something else entirely.


11 posted on 09/18/2019 1:42:08 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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It wasn’t a ground loop, and Patey himself didn’t call it that.

The plane was off the ground and was caught by a wind gust when the left wing was up. Patey described it like being a kite, and having no control.


12 posted on 09/18/2019 1:44:47 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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I forgot to mention runway type and condition: surface, width, all are to be considered.


13 posted on 09/18/2019 1:45:51 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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A ground loop is when the wheels stay on the ground. They weren’t, the plane was off the ground. Patey doesn’t call it a ground loop, he says the plane was like a kite.


14 posted on 09/18/2019 1:46:44 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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Ground loop in a high crosswind.

It's only a ground loop if it happens on a landing.

15 posted on 09/18/2019 1:49:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Here’s Patey describing the accident; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfctWAoDXvs


16 posted on 09/18/2019 1:51:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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This is a serious bummer. That was a bad ass ride.

Wonder why he didn't take off in to the wind. He knew better.

17 posted on 09/18/2019 1:53:36 PM PDT by misanthrope (Deranged, sinister deplorable)
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That’s got to be one of the shortest take offs I’ve ever seen.


18 posted on 09/18/2019 1:55:43 PM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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To: old curmudgeon

Looked at the video again. Note the ridge to his right.

If this is where it happened there was more to it than the crosswind.

Downwind from a ridge like that, high winds do more than blow. There are all sorts of weird and wild currents.

Think of the air as being similar to water flowing over rocks and forming rapids. Much different than the same rate of flow in deep water and no rocks.

Wind over mountains or ridges acts exactly like rapids.

On a nice wide runway in flat country with the right aircraft is not the same as a really windy day in the mountains.

So there is no one answer to the “would you” question.


19 posted on 09/18/2019 1:56:34 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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There are old pilots planes and bold pilots planes, but there are no old, bold pilots planes.
20 posted on 09/18/2019 1:57:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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