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To: Cobra64; AlligatorEyes; LouisianaJoanof Arc; dp0622; thesearethetimes...; jacquej; GnuThere; ...

LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!

I read a number of stories about these types of cases yesterday, usually due to Vitamin A deficiency. What caught my attention is that these people ate virtually no fat, and often not much protein. In at least some of the cases (maybe all), it was an eating disorder that was not dealt with. With cases like these, you don’t coddle the kids (regardless of what Dr. Spock says) and you force-feed them, if necessary...and if the parents are vegan types, they also need help in cases like this, because the kid needs to eat right!

So their diets were dominated by carbs, and the results were terrible (in one case, the loss of both eyesight and hearing). That person did eat some chicken, but chicken is low in fat and it didn’t provide the Vitamin A needed. Some cheese, butter, nuts, and/or red meat, and he’d still have a normal life.

https://jezebel.com/teen-goes-deaf-and-blind-after-eating-nothing-but-proce-1837820116

So it wasn’t the carbs directly destroying their lives, but the carbs allowed them to eat, but only getting empty calories.

Here’s one more...just shows that we do have to be careful, as was discussed yesterday - keeping the carbs very low is great, but keep protein amounts under control too!

https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/eyesight-experts-issue-warning-on-diet-which-can-lead-to-blindness-20161012-gs0twl.html


37 posted on 09/03/2019 7:04:35 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

By the way, anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb / Ketp ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly”


46 posted on 09/03/2019 7:09:42 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Most vitamins are fat-soluble, so if you don’t eat any fats, you don’t even process those vitamins.


47 posted on 09/03/2019 7:10:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL

It would be nice if they showed “The Magic Pill” in classrooms, but it will never happen. Big Food and Big Pharma will see to that.


48 posted on 09/03/2019 7:11:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL
So their diets were dominated by carbs, and the results were terrible (in one case, the loss of both eyesight and hearing).

I hate to be the one to rain on your low carb, keto parade... but you are missing the point of this example of bad eating. Most of the people I know who have caused serious damage to their health and in many cases actually died were those who went overboard on Atkins style diets. Most young people can handle a seriously screwed up diet philosophy for a few years without harming themselves permanently, but older folks often put themselves in an early grave.

Humans are omnivores; we typically do the best when we eat a diverse diet. The lesson from this story is not that eating too many carbs and too much oil will make you go blind, the problem here was that the idiot kid are nothing else. People who restrict the diversity of their diets because of some weird belief system are typically doing a disservice to themselves. Because we are omnivores most of us can handle a certain amount of lunacy in our dietary philosophy but the problem with diet true believers like vegetarians or people who will eat basically no “carbs” is that they tend to push their nonsense too far and on everyone else.

If people want to live their lives avoiding whole grains, fruits, and vegetables, fine. Most of us do eat too much processed flour, sugar, and fats and this puts our health at risk. But not as much as people I have known who literally cut everything other than meat out of their diets, and ended up in the hospital. And the ones who ignored their doctors and nutritionists dietary advice often cut their lives short even if they had lost some weight and their cholesterol numbers were not that bad.

So once again the moral of this story is a lack of diversity in one’s diet is bad. If the kid chose to eat only deep fried fish without the breading instead of the chips he might not have gone blind but he still would not likely be a healthy teen.

This morning my wife is making us omelets with some of the leftover rib steak that I grilled over charcoal the other day. They have some delicious tomatoes and peppers and other vegetables from our garden in them. You probably do not object to that, but I like to eat mine on a piece of wheat toast. And for desert I like to split a blueberry pop tart with my just because their processed flour and corn syrup based filling are delicious. And we are still working on her chocolate moose birthday cake.

90 posted on 09/03/2019 8:48:19 AM PDT by fireman15
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i had a blood test a month ago that was very good (maybe more than a month? but not by much)

i don’t know if they tested for A. My D was a little high so i cut down on supplements

but my eyesight is going to hell (not blind, just not as good vision. could be age related)

don’t know if i should start up taking A again but that probably wont work for certain kinds of issues, i assume

i have no clue :)


103 posted on 09/03/2019 9:17:02 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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