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To: fireman15

Thanks, and like I say life is full of decisions and trade offs. The people on my list will get to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly and they can decide what works best for them, based on being informed as much as possible - especially as they consider what the alternatives are. When there are articles showing bad results with low-carb diets, I’ll ping the list too. In fact, I pinged the list here to show the need to be careful...nothing positive about Keto, or any other ‘alternative’ diet, here, just risks.

“And I must admit that I love to eat a high protein Costco or Atkins food/candy bar as much as the next person. I just do not believe that they are much more healthy for you than a better tasting jumbo sized Reese’s peanut butter cup, or an ice cream cone.”

This one made me laugh. I was in Costco over the weekend and walking by one of the sample stands, and it was some kind of colored drink that looked like, maybe, an energy drink. The lady calls out “Keto friendly”, so I’m thinking - “Oh, she’s one of us”...but then I’m suspicious because just about anything that has the word Keto on it is usually something that people on Keto should stay away from - we’re actually pretty close on that. Before trying the sample, I look at the bottle - carbs, really low, good, then Protein 15 GRAMS. I’m like, “what the hell is in this” so I simply walk away without trying it - if people on Keto need drinks like that, I agree, they won’t do well. I still remember the people dropping dead from protein powder decades ago...not good.


130 posted on 09/04/2019 12:21:33 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Yep, my husband and I are “semi-Keto” if that makes sense. He has high BP, high cholesterol and is borderline diabetic. He is not grossly overweight and has generally healthy lifestyle/eating habits. Our Dr. is perplexed because he shouldn’t have these numbers. Cutting out bread, grains, and watching the sugar has been amazing for him, he’s lost some weight and his numbers are all much better, BUT he is taking 6 or 7 pills everyday and he hates that. We are hoping keeping to this diet will allow him to get to numbers where the pills can be eliminated.

As you say tho; the labels can be misleading and “Keto Friendly” seems to be the newest fad, same as “Low Fat” where they amp up the added sugar to make it palatable. I’m learning to read labels and we get 3 Keto meals delivered twice a month, which is helping me to put together better meals for us the other days. Having a nice little garden helps too.

As for picky eaters, 2 of our grandkids live with us and their diets are so bad; Pop Tarts (yes they are delicious). processed cereals/cereal bars and frozen waffles comprise the majority of their diet along with “chicken” nuggets and that horrible fake Mac & Cheese. They do love berries, melons and apples and cheese & will drink milk but most proteins are a no-go.

Honestly, it’s because it’s “easier” for their parents to just give them what they like. But we do make them try a little bit of new foods, and it’s interesting to see what they like now. My grandson LOVES smoked salmon & granddaughter will eat raw red peppers, even without a dip! We’re trying :)


131 posted on 09/04/2019 4:59:22 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: BobL; dfwgator
As I just said to dfwgator, I don't have any real understanding of the differences between Atkins and Keto based diets other than what I have read in the last few minutes. I only knew that they both have an emphasis on cutting out carbohydrates, which I believe is a bad idea. My buddies at work before I retired all seemed to be obsessed with protein intake and didn't care whether it was lean or fatty.

You might appreciate this comedian who reminds me a great deal of one of my best friends in my bicycle racing days. He also has a really funny video on what it would be like if meat eaters treated vegetarians the way that they treated meat eaters.

https://youtu.be/Oht9AEq1798

134 posted on 09/04/2019 8:47:13 AM PDT by fireman15
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