Posted on 09/03/2019 5:05:43 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
Should Dwight Eisenhower and Douglas MacArthur been court-martialed and hung for waging war on non-combatants?
Well someone's been fed the revisionist take, that's for sure.
Fort Sumter was not garrisoned. The 110 troops there moved there from Fort Moultrie in Dec 1860. They moved because Anderson did not think he could defend Moultrie if attacked.
The U.S. Army did not involve itself with tariff collection.
The tariff in effect at the time Lincoln was elected until Apr 12 1861 was the Tariff law of 1857. It was not “Lincoln’s insane tariff”
The ever popular "We wuz so stoopid we done fell right into Linkum's trap" defense.
An overbearing federal behemoth that imposed it's will on the South in the way of taxes/tariffs.
The South began purchasing seed/farm equipment from Europe...No no no...can't have that sayz the North.
The’re were several reasons for the war, slavery was one of them in certain circles, but even Northerners held slaves at the onset of the war. This was about FEDERAL control.
Just as we see it today...Federal control in every aspect of our lives from light bulbs to gasoline, from warshing machines to food. The Federal gubbamint has to control everything....and they do.
Now...here we are, with the most corrupt federal behemoth in history. Ask Trump.
Galveston Island doesn't belong to the Chinese government. Fort Sumter did belong to the federal government.
The South seceded from the union, creating a separate country.
Not so much, no.
Hitler cited Sherman's tactics when criticized about the blitzkrieg.
Not true.
As would have been Ike, Eacker, Spaatz, Lemay, Westmorland
Please cite a source by Hitler citing Sherman’s Tactics. Otherwise sounds like pure B.S.
Thanks for the post. I always thought that Lincoln couldn’t let the South secede from the Union because it generated major finances at least more than the North.
“The South began purchasing seed/farm equipment from Europe”.
Since cotton and tobacco did not grow in Europe. Where were the Europeans getting the seed to sell to the South, where both cotton and corn grew in huge quantities.
A lot of people around here believe that without any real evidence to support it. A lot of highly imaginative opinions but no evidence.
"Our method of warfare is different from that of Europe. We are not fighting against enemy armies but against an enemy people; both young and old, rich and poor must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as the organized armies. In this respect my march through Georgia was a wonderful success." - General Sherman to General Grant, end of January, 1865.
The Northern Forces under Abner Doubleday occupied the Southern owned Island of Ft. Sumter. This would be akin to the South invading and taking Governor’s Island in New York Harbor.
And, yes, it was that Abner Doubleday.
> State secession is not unconstitutional. <
And neither is it constitutional. It’s a damn shame the Founders were silent on this issue.
Side note: I believe that state secession should be allowed. It should be a long and involved process, taking perhaps a decade. But it should be allowed. However, the Constitution says nothing about this. So such matters are decided by the bayonet.
sounds like he hit a home run
Except that the Army troops were under the command of William Anderson, not Abner Doubleday. And Sumter was built on land deeded to the Federal government free and clear by act of the South Carolina legislature. So your Governor's Island comparison doesn't work.
If it is not prohibited by the Constitution then there is no reason why it is not permissible. It's just a question of how you go about it. Unilateral secession as practiced by the Southern states wasn't the way.
Thanks.
Here is the entire letter. It was written to General Halleck in Dec. 1864.
I had the pleasure to receive your two letters of the 16th and 18th instant today, and I feel more than usually flattered by the high encomiums that you have passed on our recent campaign, which is now complete by the occupation of Savannah . . . .
I attach more importance to these deep incisions into the enemy’s country, because this war differs from European wars in this particular: we are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war, as well as their organized armies. I know that this recent movement of mine through Georgia has had a wonderful effect in this respect. Thousands who had been deceived by their lying newspapers to believe that we were being whipped all the time now realize the truth, and have no appetite for a repetition of the same experience. To be sure, Jeff. Davis has his people under pretty good discipline, but I think faith in him is much shaken in Georgia, and before we have done with her South Carolina will not be quite so tempestuous. I will bear in mind your hint as to Charleston, and do not think “salt” will be necessary. When I move, the Fifteenth Corps will be on the right of the right wing, and their position will naturally bring them into Charleston first; and, if you have watched the history of that corps, you will have remarked that they generally do their work pretty well. The truth is, the whole army is burning with an insatiable desire to wreak vengeance upon South Carolina. I almost tremble at her fate, but feel that she deserves all that seems in store for her. Many and many a person in Georgia asked me why we did not go to South Carolina; and, when I answered that we were en route for that State, the invariable reply was, “Well, if you will make those people feel the utmost severities of war, we will pardon you for your desolation of Georgia.” I look upon Columbia as quite as bad as Charleston, and I doubt if we will spare the public buildings there as we did at Milledgeville . . . .
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