“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker
Posted on 08/23/2019 12:51:06 PM PDT by abb
Former HPD officer Gerald Goines charged with murder in botched Harding Street raid Second former officer faces tampering charge
By Aaron Barker - Senior Digital Editor Posted: 12:50 PM, August 23, 2019 Updated: 2:20 PM, August 23, 2019
HOUSTON - Charges have been filed against two former officers in connection with the deadly botched raid at a home on Harding Street earlier this year.
Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg said former Houston police Sgt. Gerald Goines has been charged with two counts of murder in connection with the Jan. 28 raid during which Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, who lived at the home, were killed. Related Stories 12 officers, 2 sergeants obtain legal representation in wake of Harding… DA adds 10 to staff investigating deadly botched Harding Street raid Law enforcement reacts hours after evidence revelations made concerning…
Former Houston police Sgt. Steven Bryant has been charged with tampering with a government document in connection with the case, Ogg said.
Ogg said Goines is accused of lying in the affidavit used to obtain a no-knock warrant that was executed at the home and led to the deadly shooting.
Bryant is accused of lying in a supplemental report that was filed two days after the raid.
"This is a case like none other we've seen," Ogg said.
Ogg said both Goines and Bryant have until 3 p.m. to turn themselves in to authorities.
This story is developing and will be updated.
Turned up or planted? Who is the independent witness to verify? I do not doubt that it was found. I believe that it was planted.
“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker
(Start at 78:31)
Dr. Cole: He had an epiphany; he was going to become a cop!
Eric Olsen: Ha ha ha what??? Uh, so, wait a minute, he was told by a former employer, if you ever, you better never get a job where you have influence over others, an authority position, or I’ll do whatever it takes to stop you. So wouldn’t becoming a cop kinda give him the ultimate authority over people?
Dr. Cole: Well, you know, lucky for all these other people, he kept moving from county to county so they weren’t really, uh, yeah, it is the ultimate authority he was just moving around so people wouldn’t know what he was doing, and I think getting out of the teaching profession they didn’t know what he was going to do.
He eventually applied to the Broward County Police Unit; he was rejected, though, because he failed the psychological test.
Eric Olsen: Oh that’s it he’s out of the career. No career for him He’s obviously unstable…
Dr. Cole: One, you know what? One would think so, and I actually used to perform these psych tests, and oh, do I have stories! You would think that it would even, it’s supposed to, let me tell you how it’s supposed to work, it’s supposed to prevent you from getting a job as a police officer or a prison guard.
Eric Olsen: Sure.
Dr. Cole: Does that always occur?
Eric Olsen: I would hope that it does.
Dr. Cole: No, no, no, I would say 50% of the time.
Eric Olsen: What?
Dr. Cole: It’s supposed to be a be a requirement, a REQUIREMENT, if you don’t pass, if you are not psychologically fit, you are not supposed to become a police officer or a prison guard. Does that actually preclude you from becoming a police officer even as long ago as what, 2005? No, I was doing them in 2005. Half of the people I rejected still became a cop.
Eric Olsen: How does that happen? How do they get around this?
Dr. Cole: Oh God there so many ways
Eric Olsen: Is it a buddy, a dad?
Dr. Cole: My son, he’s the son of my buddy, his dad a cop, he has to be a cop, he’s going to work in this county and we’re really understaffed, we need people, we know he failed, but it’s OK. The amount of excuses I heard to employ people.
And that’s the thing, just so the general public is aware, it’s difficult to fail, it’s difficult to fail one of these psychological…
Eric Olsen: What would cause one…
Dr. Cole: It’s not like the bar is so darned high that no one could pass, it’s nothing LIKE that, this test is just to find out is this person basically psychologically stable, are they non-sadistic, do they not have criminal or punishing tendencies or narcissistic tendencies themselves. Basically you’re trying to weed out anybody that has a like God complex; I’m judge, jury, and executioner. You want to get those people out of there. You’re trying to get people out of there that are just psychiatrically so unstable that they can’t control their emotions so, maybe some sort of bipolar thing going on or somebody that absolutely clearly has a personality disorder, like narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. They are not
Eric Olsen: Checks and balances. Checks and balances to protect the general public from somebody that would not do well in that position.
Dr. Cole: And I was very, yeah, I was extremely, forgiving on these psychological tests even when somebody would sort of hit sort of some of those marks on the tests we would give, I would ask in interviews I would ask a ton of questions just to be very, very sure that this person was indeed failing the psychological exam, and I did not fail that many people, but the people I failed, please believe me that it was for extremely good reasons, extremely good reasons, and half of them became cops anyway.
Eric Olsen: So when they‘d leave would they go to a different state and do it?
Dr. Cole: Hah no, they would get hired by different a county, like a couple minutes over usually. Somebody knew them and “Now let’s pick them up.” “No, no, no, he has really strong sadistic tendencies and fantasies of rape and murder, you really shouldn’t hire him” and they would. And that’s exactly, I hope it’s different that was like I said, this was in 2005, it scared the heck out of me and I said I would never have a career doing that I don’t want to know that those people are becoming officers.
Eric Olsen: Tell me it’s in the minority, though, that this happens.
Dr. Cole: It’s in the minority that people fail, the majority of people passed. But those that do fail, like I said it’s for very good reason, but half of them. Half of them got picked up. So no, it’s not a minority a full 50% got hired.
Eric Olsen: That is truly a scary number out there that 50% of...
Dr. Cole: It’s a small sample, a small sample that was in a place that was economically depressed and needed officers…
(End at 83:29)
I'd like a link to the "heroin" claim. At the time, some "white powder" was supposedly found. Then came word of non-inventoried pkgs. of drugs in Goines' vehicle. Now this article claims "cocain".
A wholebunchalotta BS STILL going on about this, but what can you expect....cops!
And as for all those who blame a "few bad apples".....Goines and the other Alpha Hotels like him didn't/don't operate in a vacuum. For decades the so called "good cops" who worked alongside them let them get away with their BS.
Yes, There was no risk, deterrent, or reckoning at all before. A few more of these where justice is actually administered and followed up and this will change.
BS, this may just be the first one you were forced to investigate.
I generally support the police.
But not dirty cops.
Family attorneys for woman killed in Harding Street raid release statement after former cop charged with murder
“The indictments today...are important developments, but they should be only the beginning of the pursuit of justice,” they said in the statement.
Author: KHOU Staff
Published: 3:58 PM CDT August 23, 2019
“We still seek a court order for sworn depositions of HPD Captain Paul Q. Follis and HPD Lieutenant Marsha Todd, and HPD police department personnel involved in the management of HPD Narcotics Squad 15. We believe the court has sufficient basis to order the depositions requested to investigate possible wrongful death, civil rights, and other legal claims.
You should have seen the boot-licking comments that poured in riiight after the first media reports of this raid:
“Yeah..? Then don’t DEAL DRUGS..!”
There was a million of them.
Oh yes, I remember.
Were those “don’t deal drugs” comments on here?
Waiting for someone on here to say they shouldn’t be charged with anything.
If by "here" you mean FR, damned straight they were.
Go back to the original threads and get an eyeful. There were FReepers who even claimed that since this couple kept to themselves, THAT was an indicator of drug dealing.
I agree. I bet the evidence was planted after the criminals realized they had botched the raid/planned murders.
“botched raid”? You’re kidding right? Premeditated murder 1. Every officer involved needs a thorough review... Trust no one! Anyone can holler “police” while kicking in your door, but thugs aren’t likely to knock nicely and hand you an invite to allow them in your home. But then, the cops also apparently had unlogged heroin in one of the cars too. Yeah. I see a pattern here.
“It was an otherwise textbook operation...”
prosecute up to the top of the force.
Chief Acevedo: No truth to these ‘crazy conspiracy theories’
“Could’ve. Would’ve. Should’ve.” Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo is urging people to “let the process run its course,” as rumors run rampant about what really happened on Harding Street.
Author: Michelle Homer, Melissa Correa
Published: 2:59 PM CST January 31, 2019
Updated: 10:49 PM CST February 7, 2019
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