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VW Bets Future on Electric People’s Car
WSJ ^ | 22 Aug 2019 | William Boston

Posted on 08/22/2019 11:52:17 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The self-parking ID.3 shows how big-volume car makers are unleashing a new generation of technologically advanced vehicles that will allow them to wrestle back leadership of their industry from upstarts like Tesla Inc.

But in order for the industry’s huge bet on electrification to pay off, car makers will have to sell millions of the vehicles to mass-market consumers, not just an elite group of wealthy, environmentally conscious consumers.

Ultimately, it expects to build one million electric cars with this technology by 2025 and a total of 15 million before upgrading the vehicle’s core technology.

Bumper to bumper, the ID.3 is about as big as the Golf. But without an internal combustion engine hogging space up front, the interior is spacious, offering as much space inside the car as the Golf’s upscale cousin the Passat.

The ID.3 won’t be sold in the U.S. Instead, Volkswagen plans to begin production of the ID “Crozz”, an electric SUV using the same technology, at its plant in Chattanooga, Tenn.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: batteries; chattanooga; crozz; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; spacex; tennessee; volkswagen
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EV's, climb on in or get run over!

Luddites of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but all that, that... junk

1 posted on 08/22/2019 11:52:17 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Get woke, go broke!....... 🤑
2 posted on 08/22/2019 11:54:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Der Führer would approve.

3 posted on 08/22/2019 11:55:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Is this a BOOM?

Maybe, but this one sure is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reTFVSlXTfA


4 posted on 08/22/2019 11:56:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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The ID.3 won’t be sold in the U.S. Instead, Volkswagen plans...

 

Once again the US is the worlds red headed stepchild.

5 posted on 08/22/2019 11:56:47 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Luddites of the world...
Sorry about that!

Satan or Musk or something suddenly possed me and made me enter that statement.

A short ride on my Airhead BMW and it should go away, I hope.


6 posted on 08/22/2019 11:56:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Volksblitzen!


7 posted on 08/22/2019 11:57:03 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I keep wondering when we acquired this surplus of electricity. Last I heard power grids were aging and unable to keep up with demand. And that was before they started shutting down coal plants.


8 posted on 08/22/2019 12:00:06 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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To: dfwgator

Stopped clocks, blind squirrels, Dumbgrunts...

Der Führer built the Autobahn...
From your photo, he liked the VW.


9 posted on 08/22/2019 12:00:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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Der Führer built the Autobahn... From your photo, he liked the VW.

And he could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon....TWO COATS!

10 posted on 08/22/2019 12:01:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“not just an elite group of wealthy, environmentally conscious consumers. ”

This could easily be rephrased as “idiots with too much money. “


11 posted on 08/22/2019 12:01:44 PM PDT by Track9
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Who the hell edits these headlines.

I would like to meet the Electric People. Rather tragic they only have one car. Seems a bet risky to bet the future of a global automotive powerhouse on the single car owned by an entire race.


12 posted on 08/22/2019 12:02:50 PM PDT by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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To: dfwgator

See? Hitler was a nice guy, really.

The kind of guy that Democrat Socialists would love:

1) Hated the Joooos
2) Wanted a car “for the people”
3) Gave speeches on gun control
4) Confiscated guns
5) Was a Socialist
6) Controlled the media
7) Only allowed State-approved thinking

Hitler/Biden 2020!!


13 posted on 08/22/2019 12:03:44 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ameribbean expat

Are Friends Electric?


14 posted on 08/22/2019 12:03:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No one has bought into the green craze than the Germans.They have committed huge amounts of capital into the manufacture and design of products. Thus far VW and the others have had no return on investment. The government has forced power companies to go green. Now the cost of electricity to consumers exceeds 30 cents per kilowatt hour. The cost is actually higher since taxes are being used to subsidize the power companies. Squandered capital cannot be recovered. Germany is on the brink of a recession. The Germans over the past 100 years have made monumental strategic blunders. They never seem to learn.


15 posted on 08/22/2019 12:05:03 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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Luddites of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but all that, that... junk

When they get there without regulations coercing the car makers (fleet CAFE and emissions standards), and massive refunds to get a core of buyers, I will be more impressed. Electric cars as a concept are no more futuristic than trains or windmills.


16 posted on 08/22/2019 12:05:25 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The reason is probably it cannot meet US government crash standards and still be affordable. Just a guess.


17 posted on 08/22/2019 12:06:02 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: GMMC0987

I keep wondering when we acquired this surplus of electricity.

While EVs might increase the amount of electricity the U.S. consumes, the investment required to accommodate them may be smaller than it appears. Many regions already have sufficient generation capacity if vehicles are charged during off-peak hours. The energy storage on board EVs could provide the flexibility needed to shift charging times and help grid operators better manage the supply and demand of electricity.

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/12/americas-power-grid-isnt-ready-electric-cars/577507/

Don’t forget the savings from the curly cue and led bulbs!


18 posted on 08/22/2019 12:06:59 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Red Badger

“Get woke, go broke!.”

I have been wrong about what people will buy. I thought that no one would buy bottled water. (I still haven’t.) I thought no one would pay five dollars for a cup of coffee. (I still haven’t.) Having said that, we did problems in my thermodynamics class forty years ago to determine what worked and what didn’t regarding energy. Windmills, for example, even given the most generous assumptions, did not. Solar, even given huge increases in efficiency and decreases in cost, did not. By did not, I mean the payout was so far off that the devices ceased functioning long before they paid for themselves. Another thing we worked problems on was electric cars. Again, generous assumptions. Again, they weren’t worth it.

To make electric cars viable requires infrastructure, decreased charging time and long battery life. None of those things will be resolved in our lifetimes without a huge cost that will not repay itself. You simply can’t get more efficient in terms of money and usability than gas and diesel.

In order to make electric cars viable you have to maintain the fiction that if we don’t convert then the entire would will be destroyed. Ridiculous.


19 posted on 08/22/2019 12:07:08 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: DUMBGRUNT

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Battery-Breakthrough-Solves-Major-Electric-Car-Problem.html


20 posted on 08/22/2019 12:08:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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