Posted on 07/31/2019 7:27:48 PM PDT by bitt
Two of the most senior intelligence officials in the US and UK privately shared concerns about “our strange situation” as the FBI launched its 2016 investigation into whether Donald Trump’s campaign was colluding with Russia.
Text messages between Andrew McCabe, the deputy director of the FBI at the time, and Jeremy Fleming, his then counterpart at MI5, now the head of GCHQ, also reveal their mutual surprise at the result of the EU referendum, which some US officials regarded as a “wake-up call”, according to a person familiar with the matter.
While Russia had previously been viewed as a country that would seek to interfere in western elections, the Brexit vote was viewed by some within the FBI as a sign that Russian activities had possibly been successful, the person said.
Their exchanges offer new insights into the start of the FBI’s Russia investigation, and how British intelligence appears to have played a key role in the early stages.
In one exchange in August 2016, Fleming noted that members of the FBI and MI5 had “met on our strange situation”, a veiled reference to discussions about Russian activities, according to the source.
True Pundit reported in 2017 that Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in spying on Trump and his associates for the FBI prior, during and after the 2016 presidential election.
That exclusive True Pundit report from Sept. 2017 revealed President Barack Obama’s White House too could be implicated, sources said. But while evidence certainly points to involvement of the Obama administration, sources said they did not have access to definitive intelligence proving such a link.
(Excerpt) Read more at truepundit.com ...
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yeah. Couldn’t believe the Plebs would actually VOTE against the NWO, so had to be RRRRUUUUSSSSSIIIIAAAA!!!!!!
Noted that truepundit pushes Trump/Russia collusion as possible justification to spying.
Now brexit is a Russian interference... the deep state is really good... everything seemingly totally different is caused by the same entity...RUSSIA!
This will all make for interesting history debates, but it will never amount to anything during our life time.
That was my thought too. It's typical liberal thinking...that British citizens aren't smart enough to vote to break with the EU, so the Russians had to be behind it. Same crap here with the Democrats. And so they come up with a phony dossier to prevent Trump from getting elected, and save us all from ourselves. They make me sick.
The modern U.S. intelligence agencies were created and chartered with one purpose at the time and that was to match the efforts of the Soviet KGB. The conditioning was to see a Russian behind every problem. Once the Soviet Union fell apart, the American spy agencies had the same one answer to every problem.
I grew up in the 50’s, and the threat of Russia was pounded into our heads regularly. Air raid drills were a regular affair. At 7 or 8 years old, I was a very impressionable child, and each time we were herded into the school hallways to sit, I listened for the sound of the planes that were coming to attack us. Now the threat is from our own intelligence agencies.
John Brennan? Why would he fly to the USA for a secret meeting with John Brennan. John Brennan was not his peer. His peer would have been Admiral Mike Rogers. Why would he meet with Brennan instead of Rogers?
Hmmm. Hmmm. Could it be that Admiral Rogers was...er...not trusted? After all, he was the one who discovered the contractor security breaches and shut down all contractor access to the NSA database in April 2016. (That illegal mining of the NSA database by contractors for political information on people like Trump, General Flynn, and others is thought to be at the root of the entire frame up of Trump, Papadopoulos and Flynn.)
Soooo...when Trump won, Hannigan suddenly and unexpectedly stepped down for "personal reasons". Everyone was shocked by it.
Check out this excellent article at: John Brennan’s Role in the FBI’s Trump-Russia Investigation where they discuss this meeting.
And this scumbag Jeremy Fleming succeeded Robert Hannigan. Now we find Jeremy Fleming was communicating secretly with...McCabe?
Really?
Here is the definition of sedition: "...If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both..."
Do we even have any law anymore?
I understand that sentiment completely, but...I don't think that is at ALL what happened in this situation. That would assume our intelligence agencies were operating as they should have and made erroneous assumptions.
That is not the case. This was a deliberate frame-up by the upper echelons of the intelligence agencies, FBI, State, and DOJ.
They WANT people to think they were concerned about Russia. But that isn't what took place.
There are many federal agencies in need of disbanding, elimination, and refunding entirely. Let a legislative body reshape the mess. That should have been there job long ago.
Oh I agree. But the Russian thing was working for so many decades that the Clintonistas thought it would not deserve a second look. Look at how easy it worked in the FISA courts. The old enemy is not worth a new look. That’s why the Clintonistas deep state chose Russian bogey men.
Thank you for your excellent reply, and thanks for the link. I’m off to read it now.
>> the FBI launched its 2016 investigation into whether Donald Trump’s campaign was colluding with Russia.
In reality, a conspiracy to frame Trump.
With the mainstream media hiding things, a case for sedition must be iron clad and obvious.
You are right - although it is longer than an 0vomit speech! 😊
Good point.
This trampling of our rights by violating the personal rights of everyone illegally surveilled, and those of us having our electoral choice in peril of being illegally removed, is that it happened largely at the upper levels of the involved agencies.
I forget which branch it was, might have been any one of the three, when the time came to run it through the normal chain of intelligence review, it was rubber stamped and the entire chain was bypassed.
There were people who were supposed to sign off. And one of the people at the top (may have been DOJ/FBI/CIA) specifically instructed the underling via available documentation to pass it up the chain directly to them.
They didn’t want anyone at lower levels seeing what was going on, because most likely someone would have said something to the effect of “Uhh...this is, er...bogus. Do you really want to consider this?”
They wanted as few eyes as possible on it.
And in the event someone was aware of it, perhaps they were counting on the innate and ingrained Russian Bogeyman to tamp down any suspicion that there may have been anything untoward going on.
We just as well should go ahead and surrender to the Russians. They are unstoppable in determining our elections. They will take us over without firing a shot.
Jeff Carlson is an amazing investigative reporter. These independent reporters not of the MSM are putting them to complete shame and showing them for the political advocate hacks they really are.
John Solomon, Chuck Ross, Clarice Feldman, et al are astonishingly thorough and good, and are part of the new Internet journalists who are doing what journalists SHOULD be doing.
You are correct, it is really long, but they provide the rich context necessary. And I am certain there are people in positions of influence (John Radcliffe, Devin Nunes and AG Barr just to name a few) who are going to use these types of articles as road maps and sources for avenues of exploration.
Radcliffe has really got them worried, he is the first to come right out and say “Crimes have been committed”. We who have been paying attention know that, but...for someone in his position to specifically say it is unusual and significant.
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