[jeffersondem]

“As i’ve pointed out to you innumerable times, Neither the Canadians, the Loyalists, or the British government believed the Colonists had suffered any abuses. The Colonists disagreed.”

No one asked me but this is my understanding as well.

[DiogenesLamp]

BroJoeK wants to be the ultimate Judge of what constitutes "abuse" and what constitutes "pleasure." His basic position is that if *HE* doesn't think their reasons are good enough, they have no right to Independence.

He is characterizing the natural law right of Independence as having a BroJoeK subjective veto clause in it, which it does not.