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God blessed me with a daughter in 2013 and wow, she gets more SS benefits than most people. Having been raped by taxes I will take what I can get, but amazing to me how much the GVT the allows retirees to scam the system (e.g., raise a granddaughter).
1 posted on 07/12/2019 8:00:05 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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Nobody is going to be cutting SS benefits.
Hell, the Dems are out on the stump promising to INCREASE them.

They’ll tax anything and anything rather than get their political heads handed to them on this issue like GWB did.


2 posted on 07/12/2019 8:06:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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worst political advice ever


3 posted on 07/12/2019 8:06:24 AM PDT by z3n
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I reach age 66 early next year. I have had a substantial income in IT so my benefits will be hefty, especially adding in my wife’s SS (half of mine). And it’s not taxable.

And living, now in Kentucky, with real estate taxes so low they are practically non existent, and the house and property paid off, we can live pretty comfortably on that. Absurdly so, actually.

But I am pretty adamant about beginning benefits while Trump is still president. Who knows what kind of crazy stuff his replacement will try.


6 posted on 07/12/2019 8:10:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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I think there's a painful but freedom-loving way to fix SS:

1) Allow people to opt out. If you're still working you can opt out of paying into it from now on, knowing you'd have less SS benefits in the future.

2) Allow people who've already paid into it get their funds out, perhaps with some interest. Again, no future benefits.

Few people will stay into it, so nothing is "taken" from them. Most people will opt out/cash in. This will be a huuuuge cost up front, but it's do-able and IMHO a much more bearable pain than letting it get bigger & bigger forever and ever. The SS trust fund now has $2.9 trillion (as of end of 2018). How much is needed to payback to everybody who already put in?

8 posted on 07/12/2019 8:15:12 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Here’s an idea - why don’t we let in at least 100,000 unskilled, uncivilized, illegal parasites each and every month from anywhere in the third world?

That should make things better!


9 posted on 07/12/2019 8:15:55 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Social Security is our nation's most successful social program

When an article starts off with a lie, the rest is suspect. Social Security failed to live up to its initial promises. It failed to live within its initial tax rates. The author must love give-away programs.

10 posted on 07/12/2019 8:16:22 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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>>>Social Security is our nation’s most successful social program<<<

Flawed Premise in the very first sentence...


12 posted on 07/12/2019 8:20:04 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Socialism is a gateway Ideology.)
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It’s not a social program.

It’s a vote-buying Ponzi scheme.


13 posted on 07/12/2019 8:22:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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Having been raped by taxes....

That, my FRiend, was only foreplay.

14 posted on 07/12/2019 8:24:46 AM PDT by deadrock
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But, but we were promised! Way back in 1964!

https://www.ssa.gov/history/ssa/usa1964-2.html

Self-Supporting

“The program is designed so that contributions plus interest on the investments of the social security trust funds will be sufficient to meet all of the costs of benefits and administration, now and into the indefinite future—without any subsidy from the general funds of the Government.

Both the Congress and the Executive Branch, regardless of political party in power, have scrupulously provided in advance for full financing of all liberalizations in the program.”

And here is where your money went. Read and weep.

https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/fundFAQ.html#n4


17 posted on 07/12/2019 8:32:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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According to the April-released Social Security Board of Trustees report, the program won't bring in enough revenue over the long term (the next 75 years)

LOL! The next 75 years???!?

A lot can happen in 75 years:

  1. The United States can collapse as a nation.
  2. A nuclear war can destroy every civilized country.
  3. GLOBAL WARMING WILL KILL US ALL!
  4. Zombies.
  5. Aliens can land and decide we are all tasty.
  6. Aliens can land and decide to help us with anti-grav and FTL drives.
  7. GLOBAL WARMING WILL KILL US ALL!
  8. Zombies.
  9. Global warming and zombies.
  10. Humanity decides that brightly-colored beads are the new currency.
  11. Bitcoin makes dollars obsolete.
  12. Artificial intelligence takes over.
  13. GLOBAL WARMING!
  14. Zombies.
  15. Artificial intelligent zombies cause GLOBAL WARMING. We pay them off in brightly colored beads given to us by aliens.

21 posted on 07/12/2019 8:39:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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“Social Security is our nation’s most successful social program...”

How does the author define “success”? What was supposed to be an investment has become a total Ponzi scheme and it’s going (gone?) broke. Hardly any of us will even recoup the money we’ve put into Social Security, much less reap any interest from our investment.


26 posted on 07/12/2019 8:48:32 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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News flash: SS will not be fixed until members of Congress are in the SS system. Then, and only then will Congress end their partisan games and work on a solution.


27 posted on 07/12/2019 8:49:09 AM PDT by birdsman (NAAWP)
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Trump said he would NOT cut Social Security - and the Motley Fools are liberal democrats... so this is BS...


35 posted on 07/12/2019 9:28:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos & Pretentious men: EVERY CHILD RAPIST on Epstein's plane was a powerful democrat...)
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Trump doesn’t have the authority to make any changes to social security

This is being questioned by leftist mainstream media clap trap as part of an overall narrative

That said changes are a common just not in the Next decade


36 posted on 07/12/2019 9:28:29 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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If there a short fall in funding we’ll MORE THAN MAKE IT UP BY DUMPING THE DAMN ILLEGALS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.


38 posted on 07/12/2019 9:29:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos & Pretentious men: EVERY CHILD RAPIST on Epstein's plane was a powerful democrat...)
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We need to begin phasing out SS, the way to do that is to means test all current recipients and all new applicants for the next five years and then stop taking new applications after five years.

End the tax and shred the bonds in the “Trust Fund” and pay for those still in the program from the general budget until they all die.


46 posted on 07/12/2019 6:21:48 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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When is welfare going to be bankrupt? Or refuge funding?


53 posted on 07/15/2019 8:00:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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SS retirement age should be lowered because I look at it as a tax cut and not an income device. THE GOP has made it so it looks like I will have to work until I die.


54 posted on 07/15/2019 8:02:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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