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the godfather of the self-driving car explains how Larry Page taught him to be a visionary
Business Insider ^ | 6 July 2019 | Julie Bort

Posted on 07/06/2019 11:49:02 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: SunkenCiv

All you’ve got to do is look at the companies working on it. Uber. Amazon. Big trucking companies. There’s a market. There’s a big market.


21 posted on 07/06/2019 1:35:38 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was about to pull out of a parking space ...

My father was well into his eighties in a similar event and the other driver dinged him.

The copper said it was the other guy’s fault, the old man was career Navy and still hardcore, told the cop if I can’t see them I should not be driving.
He tore up his license and never drove again for the rest of his 91 good years. Lots of bicycling and then an adult tricycle with a grocery basket, and he loved to walk.


22 posted on 07/06/2019 1:41:42 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: discostu
There's a market for overpriced status goods. They have to work right basically 100% of the time, or the market doesn't ever appear. Segway works, unless the passenger is a bit too heavy, or (in the case of a good sized chunk of the US population) experiences actual weather, like sudden downpours, ice storms, icy roads...
There's a market for cargo / parcel delivery by drone, but unless it runs someone down or falls out of the sky onto someone's head, no one cares if the package gets destroyed, there's more where that came from.

23 posted on 07/06/2019 1:42:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ctdonath2

Already, self driving cars are proving twice as safe as human driven.

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Undoubtedly a stat created by the same people telling us that illegals commit less crime than Americans do.


24 posted on 07/06/2019 1:42:40 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam stupid!)
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To: SunkenCiv

You’re not paying attention. This isn’t an overpriced status good. This is a way to finally get around having to hire guys with very expensive drivers licenses. Ridiculous medallion fees. No more susceptibility to strikes. No more having to worry about sleep regulations.

And they don’t have to work 100% of the time. They just have to work 1% of the time MORE than people. Segway failed because it was a $5000 solution to a $100 problem. Self driving cars will work because in the end they’ll be CHEAPER. NYC cab medallions cost a couple hundred grand, have cost as much as a million. How expensive can a self driving car be and STILL come in less than that?


25 posted on 07/06/2019 1:48:03 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: TheDon

[[You’re showing your age. Kids today would much rather pay attention to their smartphones than the road.]]

Many kids today can’t even be bothered to get a driver’s license. Its incredible.


26 posted on 07/06/2019 1:55:16 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Robert DeLong

I have little faith in programs. 8>)

Infiniti Q50 and are already drive by wire all program all the time.

GM pickups had Quadrasteer, four-wheel steering, programmed for steering.

Even the old Hydramatics were ‘programmed’ to shift (when warmed up, maybe).


27 posted on 07/06/2019 1:57:54 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: headstamp 2

Actually it makes a lot of sense. For our age group the car was the big world widener. You sent from your world being limited by how far you could walk, to how far you could bike, to how far you could public transit, to wide open driving. But the current generation has been raised on the internet. They have had the whole world at their fingertips their entire life. They don’t need to drive, the world isn’t going to get any bigger for them. In fact driving will make it smaller, can’t watch k-pop videos while you drive, can on the bus.


28 posted on 07/06/2019 2:05:08 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

All it takes is one mistake. I prefer to be in control. Old fashioned I guess. 8>)


29 posted on 07/06/2019 2:06:00 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DUMBGRUNT

And programmers never get it wrong.

Like the weather models of better yet political polling.


30 posted on 07/06/2019 2:14:07 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: discostu

I look at it more of a mark of self-reliance and a plus for certain jobs.

I guess its all according to where you live. Around here a car is a requirement if you want to get anywhere to do anything. Including to work.

Many of these kids are trapping themselves into a dependence on mommy and daddy to get around.

The neighbor boy just graduated high school. In absolutely no rush to get a job or look into any further education. No driver’s license either. I blame the parents actually. Its just not healthy. The internet is not life. Life is face to face interactions with real people and learning how to get along in a society.


31 posted on 07/06/2019 2:17:34 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

Or Uber. Or public transport. Of course with remote working gaining popularity, and Amazon able to deliver pretty much anything, leaving the house is becoming less necessary.

We’re interacting and getting along just fine without being face to face. Society takes many forms.


32 posted on 07/06/2019 2:35:55 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: fella

Programmed vehicles have been on the road next to you for a long time.

Infiniti Q50 and are already drive by wire all program all the time.

GM pickups had Quadrasteer, four-wheel steering, programmed for steering.

Even the old Hydramatics were ‘programmed’ to shift (when warmed up, maybe).

Unless you only drive a stick...automatics are PROGRAMED from birth.

Drive anything with fuel injection?

Ever hear of a ‘performance chip’? Programmed!

Don’t tell me!
Let me guess???
YOU ONLY DRIVE A FLATHEAD STICK!!!
A NICE RIDE I MISS MY OLD FORD p/u.


33 posted on 07/06/2019 3:04:23 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: discostu

I could see the semis running as bots or remote control over the vast stretches of nowhere and a driver getting behind the wheel when getting close to civilization.


34 posted on 07/06/2019 4:00:27 PM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Watch any Knight Rider episode where Kitt is compromised.

I’d fired Devon and both the women technicians for world class incompetence.


35 posted on 07/06/2019 4:02:52 PM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; All
Up to that point, the best we had ever seen was an empty dessert track, or an empty city that could go at 10-15 miles per hour.

DARPA did the Urban Challenge in 2007.

DARPA has been the instigator of the Internet, GPS, Stealth technologies, Gallium Arsenide computer chips.

DARPA has to be one of the best investments the U.S. Government ever made.

36 posted on 07/06/2019 7:37:45 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

DARPA has to be one of the best investments the U.S. Government ever made.

The claim used to be, that AIR AMERICA, the CIA run airline was the only US government agency to make a profit?


37 posted on 07/06/2019 7:44:52 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), does not make money off the projects it starts. It spends seed money to get them started. They are very useful to the military. Then the spinoffs happen. The Internet, minature GPS, and gallium arsenide computer chips have all had astonishing commercial success.

Any one of those innovations paid for the entire budget of DARPA many times over in increased production and efficiency.

38 posted on 07/07/2019 4:28:32 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: discostu
Yeah, it'll work just like that. Another solution in search of a problem.

39 posted on 07/07/2019 11:18:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh no. There is very much a problem to be solved. How many times do UPS and FedEx (and through them businesses that rely on shipping, like Amazon one of the big investors in self driving tech) have do deal with strikes in the Holiday season? These strikes are perfectly timed for maximum profit attack. No drivers means no strikes. The whole point of Uber is to get around chauffeur licenses and medallions, they are also massive investors in this tech, because the goal is NOT regular people playing taxi, it’s driverless taxis. Big shipping companies in Europe are pushing for driverless semis for the same reason. There is a distinct and well known host of problems with human drivers in commercial situations: they are expensive, they always want to get paid more, they get sick, they have to sleep, they aren’t always honest. Self driving vehicles get rid of all those problems.


40 posted on 07/07/2019 11:33:33 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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