[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Cosmic rays are not of solar origin. Cosmic rays have long been suspected of influencing cloud formation, but their effect on climate stability has not been established.

Variability in solar output does not appear to be a major factor.

Milankovich cycles, related to the shape of the earth’s orbit, phasing between the vernal equinox and soltices, and variations in obliquity seem to be directly and strongly related to ice ages.

Current century-length variations do not have any simple and widely accepted explanation, nor is it even clear that we are in an anomalously warm period. Cosmic rays may be the cause, as may increases in carbon dioxide. Regardless, it is not settled science.

[Lurker]

“Cosmic rays are not of solar origin.”

Understood. But to my limited understanding cosmic rays can very wildly in intensity. A ray from a pulsar striking earth directly would have much greater effects on our climate than “background” cosmic rays. Is my understanding correct?

“Milankovich cycles, related to the shape of the earth’s orbit, phasing between the vernal equinox and soltices, and variations in obliquity seem to be directly and strongly related to ice ages.”

The orbit of the Earth isn’t perfectly circular so that would seem to me, a complete layman, logical.

“Current century-length variations do not have any simple and widely accepted explanation,”

I don’t see how they could. It seems to me that 100 years is much too short a time frame from which to draw any meaningful conclusions. But what the hell do I know. I’m just some guy on FR.

Enjoy your day.

L

[politicianslie]

It is NOT CO2.

It has been shown in NUMEROUS places that CO2 increases LAG temperature increases. You should be able to find that info in any CO2 vs Temperature graphs that are long term. They get this info from ice core samples and it is CLEAR that is the case.

Additionally, CO2 in the atmosphere is about 0.04% of the total gas. Man made contribution is about 5% of that. So how are we going to significantly affect temperatures by SLIGHTLY changing the man made 5% of 0.04%?

The answer is easy. Liberals need $$ and they need to control the economies of capitalist countries. By raising energy prices through the roof, the RATS get big $$ and they put people on welfare where they can be easily controlled. Get your social number too low by posting conservative principals, and it affects your welfare payment.

It is that simple.

The following graph shows the last century +. You can easily see that ACTUAL TEMPERATURE READING show the 1930's were the hottest temperatures in the last 100+ years. Everyone knows that CO2 in the 1930's was lower than now. As ACTUAL TEMPERATURE readings decreased in the last couple of years, ADJUSTED temperatures have INCREASED. The graph clearly shows that the only tmeperatures increasing now are ADJUSTED TEMPERATURES. In other words, liberals believe we are seeing ACTUAL TEMPERATURES higher than the 1930's. That is a LIE. We are seeing ADJUSTED TEMPERATURES that are higher. As anyone with an IQ above dirt knows, it is getting COOLER now compared to the last couple of decades. And CO2 levels continue to increase with CO2 levels increasing due to the lag effect.

It's so easy to fool dumba$$es which is how the liberals operate. The average voter thinks they are talking MEASURED ACTUAL TEMPERATURES when they say the Earth is warming. The truth is the liars are discussing ADJUSTED TEMPERATURES. They won't say it, but the adjustments bring the readings consistent with CO2 level changes of their computer modes. If the data doesn't fit, change the DATA! That is FRAUD 101 taught in any RAT political course.