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Top 9 Most Reliable Laptop Brands And Failure Rate Comparison
geckoandfly.com ^ | June 9, 2019 | Ngan Tengyuen

Posted on 06/19/2019 8:23:57 AM PDT by fireman15

Planned obsolescence, or built-in obsolescence, in industrial design and economics is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so it will become obsolete (that is, unfashionable or no longer functional) after a certain period of time.

No company will admit they have this policy, but we can observe this from a products’ average failure rate and the company’s sincerity in fixing it by making available parts required to fix it. This is why I am a huge fan of Japanese products and also Apple. Products are not merely hardware, Apple on the other hand is known for updating their 4 or 5 years old iPhone with the latest OS. As for parts, it is easy to find spare parts for most Japanese brands.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Reference
KEYWORDS: apple; applefanboi; computers; laptop; paidspokesman; plannedobsolescence
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To: ken in texas
There are a few of us around. You never know when it might come in handy. :-)

I have a huge pile of obsolete and broken hardware... I am going to have to get rid of because we are currently moving and downsizing. But it is a challenge to do.

41 posted on 06/19/2019 9:25:18 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

My HP’s hinges are also broken. This was my first and last HP product. Now I’ve got an ASUS “gaming” laptop on the way. Gaming hardware is built for hard use, right? I’m not that demanding, so I expect this new laptop to survive for many years to come. But no more HP junk.


43 posted on 06/19/2019 9:40:48 AM PDT by Histo
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To: Tallguy

Cool! Sounds like some nice setups you have there!


44 posted on 06/19/2019 9:43:56 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: fireman15

My experience with HP differs from yours.

I bought my HP laptop in 2013 and it has performed flawlessly ever since. I use the heck out of it, too.


45 posted on 06/19/2019 9:51:46 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: fireman15

Panasonic Toughbooks are the only way to go IF you have the money and need an ultrareliable laptop that you use all day every day and/or travel continuously ... still made in Japan as far as i know, and comes with three year warranty and outstanding support out of Heartland,KS and New Jersey.

these things generally last well beyond the software and hardware technology improvements in subsequent generations.


46 posted on 06/19/2019 9:52:57 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: fireman15

i find their finding strange, because in my decades of PC support, HP laptops have been BY FAR the worst of the worst, even their so-called business laptops ... i consider HP’s to be absolute junk.

Dell Latitudes (their 5000 series business-class machines) have been excellent ...


47 posted on 06/19/2019 9:57:05 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: sevlex

Should I upgrade my Dell from Windows 7?


48 posted on 06/19/2019 9:58:13 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: fireman15

I am using a 2012 MacBook Pro. Had a problem 5 years ago that was handled with Apple Care. Last year, I realized it was getting slower and slower and started thinking about replacing it. Problem with the new ones is they aren’t nearly as versatile when it comes to ports and there are some keyboard problems. So instead of replacing it, I replaced the old HD with a 1TB SATA and put in more memory. It was like getting a new computer for $250. I’m toying with the idea of replacing the battery before too much longer.

I won’t be upgrading to Catalina—I have some 32-bit software that I’m kind of fond of.


49 posted on 06/19/2019 9:58:45 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Ted Grant

I preserved windows on one of them. So it’s dual-booted. I did that to preserve a computer running iTunes. Had to keep a cess to the music library that I have running on an iPod. Couldn’t find any good way to run iTunes on a Linux OS.


50 posted on 06/19/2019 10:04:56 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Pollard

I have a couple of Lenovo 440T laptops. They’re great performers but I hate the trackpad! I have to use a USB mouse with them or I constantly make mistakes.

My current surfing machine is a Panasonic Toughbook. I’ve worn the lettering off half the keyboard on this machine and used it out in the rain without problems. It’s seven years old and the software has been reloaded three times but it still runs like a champ.


51 posted on 06/19/2019 10:14:38 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

I never could stand touchpads and the trackpoint, red button thing is just too slow so I use a wireless usb mouse as well.


52 posted on 06/19/2019 10:33:06 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Ted Grant

I picked up a Toshiba laptop in early 2013 and bumped up the RAM to the maximum 16GB. While it serves me well enough to this day, it’s buggy and boots slow.
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I too bought a Toshiba laptop back in 2013 from Best Buy. It’s kept in our bedroom, internet connection and it runs thru our 46” TV.

We like watching YouTube videos and stream movies from several sites like Popcorn Flix and other similar sites.

It has 12GB of RAM and I installed a 250GB Crucial SSD. It’s never moved. When running we keep a 4” fan blowing on the front to keep it cool. It will reboot from the desktop and back to the desktop in around 30 seconds. Running Windows 8.1. Never had a bit of trouble.


53 posted on 06/19/2019 10:39:20 AM PDT by Valk Rider
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To: fireman15

Hunk of Plastic. (HP). I make an effort to never buy HP products - whether scanners, laptops, printers.


54 posted on 06/19/2019 11:11:03 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Yo-Yo
You bought crippled hardware at a cheap price, sort of like buying a black and white TV and complaining 5 years later that it won't do color. The TV still works just like your 5C just not the latest and greatest because it has limitations.
iPhone 5 was released in September 2012 and enjoyed 5 years of iOS support - that level of commitment and support is unheard of elsewhere in the mobile device market. Where the iPhone 5 saw four major iOS upgrades after its initial, out-of-the-box version (it came with iOS 6, then upgraded to iOS 7, 8, 9, and 10), most Android users (speaking from experience here) are lucky if they see just one major upgrade of Android. In fact, some of the Android devices I've had never saw one, single, major Android update. Not even on Samsung “flagship” devices!

Apple has the undisputably, longest lifecycle support of any device manufacturer.

55 posted on 06/19/2019 11:14:09 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: fireman15
Apple on the other hand is known for updating their 4 or 5 years old iPhone with the latest OS

I thought the "upgraded" OS slowed the phones down to restrict battery use of their non-replacement batteries that were dying...i.e. planned obsolescence.

56 posted on 06/19/2019 11:18:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: fireman15

I won’t bore anyone with the technical details, but I swore off using HP forever. I told HP tech support in India that my family and friends would boycott their wicked company for the next five generations! That seemed to wind them up. :-)


57 posted on 06/19/2019 11:24:35 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: itsahoot
You bought crippled hardware at a cheap price

And I plan on doing it again with an iPhone XR.

58 posted on 06/19/2019 11:28:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: fireman15

TINY WEB

New laptops are limited to the Tiny Web.

You will want the Whole Web which is done by wiping over with an installable OS eg Win 10 Pro, either on USB or DVD.

The Tiny Web is limited to select products. fake news and Tiny Search like Google.


59 posted on 06/19/2019 11:41:18 AM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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To: Yo-Yo
And I plan on doing it again with an iPhone XR.

Cool. I actually buy what I want, not what I need which costs a lot more. Truth is I don't need an iPhone at all I could do all I need to do with an iPad Mini and Magic Jack.

I fear however the new MacPro will just have to stay on my want list, unless Rush were to give me one, Apple certainly never will.

60 posted on 06/19/2019 11:44:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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