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All manufacturers are developing EVs, hoping that battery technology will soon supply a new miracle battery to power them with.

Making the car is a breeze. Making the battery is a nightmare..............


2 posted on 06/12/2019 6:47:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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Making the battery is not carbon friendly.


9 posted on 06/12/2019 6:55:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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Again I stand alone. This revolution is coming here in MI and everyone knows it. It is not about green it is about 50/50 weight distribution with the mass down low w/ the skateboard type battery pack that adds to chassis rigidity. Fungability of drivetrain components that are even stackable in modules for more torque. It will be in fact one hell of a lot simpler IMHO. No more developing engines of all Liter sizes and having the EPA give you an anal exam during testing and the 100's of millions to develop and certify them. It is about acceleration that in smooth and frankly mindblowing. It is about the 229 jobs in "Electrification" posted here in MI the other day on a major job board. It is about Toyota throwing in the towel and going this route as the hook up with Panasonic as their Solid State Battery partner. Solid State Batteries will be here soon enough. I am not just pulling this out of my tuckus, I have had the pleasure of actually discussing at length what is going on in that arena with one of the players in it, and for the record none of this is investment advice and you couldn't if you tried, much of all this is VC or angel money and the Mutual Funds and ETF's in this area slim and none, and IMHO wall street has there heads you know were on this one.

Even Peter DeLorenzo of The AutoExtremist gets it, in his latest editorial and he is a bigger piston head curmudgeon than I, and note his hat tip to Solid State Batteries and Toyota towards the end....

http://www.autoextremist.com/current/2019/6/10/batting-1000.html

17 posted on 06/12/2019 7:03:33 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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All manufacturers are developing EVs because it is mandated. In CA, you must sell a certain percentage of EVs in order to sell conventional vehicles. I am unsure but I believe a few other states have similar laws. The manufacturers anticipate a similar federal law. I think the Obama admin passed some rule saying they had to work on EV development too.


24 posted on 06/12/2019 7:15:04 AM PDT by rey
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Which is stupid....

The EV as a viable alternative to combustion, just like autonomous vehicles, is DECADES AWAY!

The first problem with EV was getting enough battery power to weight ratio to get 300ish miles to the charge.....

That (dispite the hype) hasn’t fully be realized even today, but its close (especially when you factor in need for things like heat and ac etc)....

The next problem is Charging Time... They are improving this, but nowhere near where it needs to be (300 miles on 10 minute charge then you are close on par with combustion).

The next problem after that (not remotely solved) are access to that 10 minute charge.... There is virtually ZERO distribution of this option currently and will cost countless billions to do...

Finally, once you have all of those problems solved, you need more power on the grid, meaning you need MORE power plants... A LOT MORE! And those are costly, time consuming to build... And will take a lot of political will to build out the grid to handle the demand...

This is the reality... EV’s as anything other than a niche commuter vehicle is NOWHERE near prime time capable, and it will be decades AT LEAST, before EV is the primary vehicle folks are purchasing.


38 posted on 06/12/2019 8:18:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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39 posted on 06/12/2019 8:21:37 AM PDT by Doctor DNA (Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones... But Some Words .....!)
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