They didn’t interfere. Have you seen any of the Facebook ads they supposedly bought? All $130k worth? No one else has either because they don’t exist. It’s all a lie.
Something the dems have given their enthusiastic support to.
Because they hate Hillary, too?
You are supposed to add an /s to these kinds of posts. You have been a FReeper long enough you know the answer to everyone of your questions.
The reason you don’t understand these things is the reason why you are reading Free Republic instead of CNN, NYT, or WaPo.
To understand why “The Russians!” would want Trump to be POTUS you would need to drink a whole lot of that Democrat Kool-Aid.
“ran some ads on social media to help Trump get elected”
I saw the ads.
They were distinctive.
They were moronic.
They were staggeringly bad, low quality, stupid, culturally ignorant.
If Trump had anything to do with them, he’d have demanded a refund.
In no way would Trump need to hire incompetent foreign advertisers for a lame ad campaign costing pocket change.
The theory is preposterous.
It came out a long time ago that some Russians started buying ads back in 2014. These ads supported Black Lies Matter. As the election got nearer, they put out ads in support of Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, Marco Rubio, Hillary Clinton and later Trump. During the campaign, both anti- and pro-Trump demonstrations were organized as well as pro- and anti-Hillary demonstrations. All these were very small with just a handful of people attending.
The Russians weren’t trying to get Trump elected, that’s why they handed Clinton the dossier full of Russian disinformation to be used to derail Trump. They would have much preferred Clinton. They had already bought her with $140 MILLION “donation” to the Clinton Foundation.
Everyone knows that Russians like Vodka and potatoes, right? OK, let’s say Hillary is elected president. All the coal miners would be out of work and looking for new jobs. That would mean, um, less vodka and potatoes for Russia. I think that is pretty obvious.
“I have yet to figure out why the Russians would help Trump get elected.”
I have said that myself right from the beginning of this sham.
Hillary is Putin’s soul mate and that was proved by her compliance in the little sale us US uranium. If anything qualifies HER as the Russian favorite for WH occupancy, THAT does!
SHE could have been the goose that lays the golden egg for Vlad!!
Trump, on his BEST day, would still be a perfect pain in the a&^ for Russians and the very last person they’d move one inch to assist into the WH!
The answer is simple. The Russians love adversity. They hated getting their way simply by paying bribes. They wanted somebody who would hurt their economy with sanctions, would demand they get out of the Middle East and stymie their political and economic plans at every turn instead of aiding them. Russians are like people who cut themselves for fun and stimulation. That’s why they wanted Trump in office.
Hilary used her state department position to enrich herself through pay to play money directed into the Clinton Foundation. The Russians paid well for uranium one access. The Russians already had a relationship with Clinton and knew she was compromised,greedy and bought. Why in the world would Russians help Trump?
I have yet to figure out why the Russians would help Trump get elected.
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One reason might be that, before the election, it seemed that Hillary Clinton was simply ITCHING for a war with Russia.
I have no idea why, or if that was all just some kind of pose she was putting on to make it seem like she could actually be a Commander-in-Chief.
The left and the neo-cons have been trying to instigate a war with Russia since before the election despite barkies admonition to Milt that “1983 called and they want their foreign policy back”. We all know whatever the left is accusing the right of doing is projection of their own crimes. The problem is the 42% mushheads can’t critical think out of a wet sack and the left counts on that.
Then the big one hit. Despite their best efforts at vote manipulation their criminal globalist deep state commie queen failed at the poles. They can’t wrap their pea sized brains around the fact that the proletariat could rise up and undue their plans.
Subsequent to that the collectivists and the demonicrats (but I repeat) literally lost what was left of their minds (hive mind as it were). This cannot stand. How can we lose a rigged election when we spent so much time infiltrating the government with commies, deep state plants, muslim brotherhood, and criminals, how?
Now that leads us to the muh Russia crap. The already set the tone before the election and the real Russian colluders (the deepstate, Jeb, he who shall not be named, and Hillary)
called upon their scumbag globalists friends to expose the fake Fusion GPS bullshirt they had prepositioned to cover their voluminous asses and create chaos for Trump. Hoping they would wedge Trump’s butt in a crack and make him dance like a puppet on a string.
What they failed to understand (and still don’t) is Trump had it all (or at least most of it) before he sat down in the oval office. Trump also IMHO has backup from some VERY serious players who have been in the game a long time, know where the bodies are buried, and don’t like the direction the country was taking (in other words, patriots).
It’s really no more complicated that that. The mechanisms of the coup have some complexities, but the basis for it is simple. These asshats have been pulling this crap all over the world for over half a century, they got desperate and tried it here and it’s going to fail. The DNA of freedom is still strong in the USA for the time being.
Even the so-called ‘evidence’ they have is meant to HURT Trump, not hilLIARy!
AND WHY ISN’T SHE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR PAYING $8 MILLION TO FRAME TRUMP BY MANUFACTURIING THE FAKE DOSSIER?
Here’s what I’ve said from day one.
Look at the two personalities.
Putin - Always presents a tough guy image, former KGB thug, rules Russia like a dictator, the most common descriptive term I’ve heard is “he’s a bully”.
So what’s the last thing a bully wants to see? I know bullies quite well, I dealt with them in school daily...the last thing they want is someone who is willing to fight back. They greatly prefer someone half their size who is too weak to fight back, even if he wants to.
I finally had to knock some bozo on his ass in several different schools to get them to leave me alone. Talking didn’t work, negotiation was useless, warnings went in one ear and out the other. The only thing they listen to is brute force. Knock the guy on his ass then say ok NOW leave me alone...that’s the only thing that would work. That’s what Putin is. Except that being a politician, he will at least listen to negotiation.
Trump - Was in a military academy as a teenager, wouldn’t let the big guys pick on the little guy. The smallest guy in the unit was interviewed, he said that the bullies learned in a hurry “when Trump said leave me alone, he meant it”. Still standing up for the little guy today.
Textbook example of an alpha male personality, I can’t think of a better example. I don’t think he’s afraid of a human being in this world, says what he means and means what he says and will not back down from anyone.
Trump is the last thing Putin would want to see in the White House, someone who will stand up to him. It took me longer to type the first two sentences of this post than it did to realize that.
The only reason I can think of Putin would not want Hillary as prez is that from what I have heard, he can’t stand her. Other than that, she’s exactly what he WOULD want...dishonest, corrupt politician he can manipulate and possibly blackmail. He probably already has all the dirt on her he needs to keep her “in her place” to his way of thinking.
I have little doubt the day Trump announced, Putin ordered the KGB to bring him everything they could dig up, he already had it for Hillary. He knew Trump would stand up to him within a week, the last thing he wants to see, I’ll never buy into the idea that Putin would actually help Trump get elected. Ludicrous at best...
Russia has always tampered in our elections, but probably not to pick a candidate, more to stir up discontent, disseminate misinformation and undermine democracy. They do it all over the world. The idea that they would help Trump is ridiculous at best. If anything, they would help Hillary, who is already a known politician, and exactly what fits their agenda. Dishonest, corrupt, easily manipulated, enough skeletons in her political closet she’s easy to bribe or blackmail. Trump, not so much...
They didn’t interfere but an argument can be made as to why they wouldn’t want Hellary as President.
1. She seemed to want a war with them!
2. She’s incompetent IN EVERYTHING! Therefore hard to deal with.
3. Her incompetence would make the world a more chaotic place. The Russians actually don’t like chaos unless they can control & direct it. (Then is it really chaos?)
Note: 2) & 3) could also be reasons why they would want her as President. It depends on what strategy Russia would be pursuing.
But the biggest reason if the Russians truly had a reason would be 1). She seemed to want a direct shooting war between the US & Russia. The Russians can tolerate a proxy war but a direct shooting war is something else.
Anyway its all moot, they didn’t interfere. If they did it was what $50K (Facebook provided number!) of interference. Not even noticeable! So none to insignificantly little interference.(I wonder how Facebook arrived at that number?)
Besides given the gifts to her foundation, it could be agued she was already on their payroll. So if they interfered they interfered for her! Which looks like that might be jelling into fact!
Didn’t I mention something about her incompetence?
Putin did it to make less money on oil?
Top economists estimate that deregulation by the Trump administration has lowered the cost of a barrel by $10, costing Putie and Iran untold millions.