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Mussolini’s great-grandson defends fascism, family legacy: “You can’t define it in terms of…’
Fox News ^ | 05/09/2019 | Barnini Chakraborty

Posted on 05/09/2019 9:28:53 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: dfwgator

Thank God Poland is refusing them. Eastern Europe is all that can save Europe.


61 posted on 05/09/2019 10:34:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Olog-hai

*** and an alliance with Adolf Hitler. ***

Hard to believe that Italy, the protector of Austria at that time, almost joined an alliance with England and France to protect Austria from Hitler.

Then Hitler put the schmooze on Benito and won him over.


62 posted on 05/09/2019 10:34:37 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DesertRhino

He wasn’t going to choose any other way, given the similarity in ideology and the “Roman Empire” outlook.

And “no worse”, seriously (excepting Belgium)? Too many people are sucked in by socialist historical revision these days.


63 posted on 05/09/2019 10:35:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: billorites

Other than that, helluva guy and a fabulous dancer.

And, he made the trains run on time.(?)


64 posted on 05/09/2019 10:35:41 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DesertRhino
The differences are at best, academic.

Ah, yes, the moral equivalency argument. You embarrass yourself.

65 posted on 05/09/2019 10:35:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Olog-hai

Stalin also used slave labor for all of the big projects like the Dnieper Dam project.

Another piece of “inconvenient history” that Leftists ignore.


66 posted on 05/09/2019 10:37:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Why use mustard gas when you have Zyklon B, tabun, soman and even sarin?


67 posted on 05/09/2019 10:38:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DesertRhino

Well I certainly hope the Liverpool fans won’t act like they did in 1985.


68 posted on 05/09/2019 10:41:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
Seriously, how do you get your ass kicked by Greece?

LOL! Not easy to do, was it?

69 posted on 05/09/2019 10:48:20 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

But I will say, the Greeks were badasses in WWII.


70 posted on 05/09/2019 10:50:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DesertRhino
Dunno. With facial expressions like that ... does it really matter what he was saying? :-) Mussolini was a piece of work.


71 posted on 05/09/2019 10:50:45 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Olog-hai
Hmmm... 71 replies already...

Iteration number 23 or thereabouts of, "By G-d he made the trains run on time!"

72 posted on 05/09/2019 10:53:10 AM PDT by OKSooner ("...cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war..." - Marcus Antonius, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I)
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To: Olog-hai
Hey Caio, Here's one for the family photo album.


73 posted on 05/09/2019 10:54:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Olog-hai

Exactly. The 3rd quote on my FR profile page:

Although our modern socialists’ promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under “communism” and “fascism.” As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, “the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.”

No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

— F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom


74 posted on 05/09/2019 10:59:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dfwgator; DesertRhino

I recently read The Crime of the Congo by Arthur Conan Doyle to get a better feel for what really happened there, since I’d seen numbers on the Congo democide on Professor Rummell’s web site. Just horrible.

The Crime of the Congo by Arthur Conan Doyle
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/37712

Yet another reminder of Man’s inhumanity to Man, and another reminder why you never give up your guns.


75 posted on 05/09/2019 11:07:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: truth_seeker

Hitler was more impressed by Stalin’s work.

But a good point has been raised, Hitler certainly didn’t arise from a vacuum, he justified his crimes by merely pointing out the previous crimes of other European states, he specifically noted the Turks’ crimes against the Armenians, and if Turkey wasn’t punished for it, why would he have ever thought Germany would have been punished for their crimes?


76 posted on 05/09/2019 11:11:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FreedomPoster
Although our modern socialists’ promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere …
Given the roots of socialism, and its history, there is really nothing sincere about it. The ideology is always about cradle-to-grave totalitarianism and no freedom.
[Karl Marx] envisioned a regimented breed of Pavlovian men whose minds could be triggered into instant action by signals from their masters. He wanted a race of men who would no longer depend upon free will, morals, ethics or conscience for guidance. Perhaps without realizing it, Marx was setting out to create a race of human beings conditioned to think like criminals.

Producing such a race had been the dream of power-hungry men for more than 4,000 years. Nimrod had projected the design, Plato polished it, Saint-Simon sublimated it—now Marx materialized it.

Today, this breed of criminally-conditioned man walks the earth in sufficient numbers to conquer countries or continents, to change laws and boundaries, to decree war or peace. …

— The Naked Communist
That is the endgame of socialism in all its forms. And that is how far it goes back in history.
77 posted on 05/09/2019 11:11:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Rebelbase

He never looked better.


78 posted on 05/09/2019 11:11:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Olog-hai

Mussolini actually greatly admired Stalin, and in the beginning didn’t see his ideology far from what Stalin was pursuing.


79 posted on 05/09/2019 11:29:36 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: dfwgator
But I will say, the Greeks were badasses in WWII.

Totally agree. Must have sucked to be a German soldier posted to Greece or Yugoslavia. On one hand, great not to be in Russia. On the other hand, you have all these partisans trying to kill you.

80 posted on 05/09/2019 11:33:21 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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