Soviet SU-152 damage to Nazi Tanks (during World War II)

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Also, my comment regarding the 76mm being a high velocity cannon was in contrast to the 75mm fitted to Shermans prior to the M18 (M18s with the 76mm were rolling out months before Shermans were fitted with the “76mm gun, M1A1”) and not the HVAP ammo. Even without the HVAP ammo there was already the better part of a thousand feet per second muzzle velocity difference between the M18’s M1A1/M1A1C/M1A2 and the Sherman’s 75mm.

Just so, though the earlier 75mm was thought to be better at performing HE tasks. A partial cure was the inclusion of 3 105 arty gun tanks being included in the HQ Section of a WWII Tank Battalion for any targets that deserved a good doaage of High Explosive. The higher velocity of the 76mm gun, as used in the late-war Shermans, M18 Hellcat and M41 light tank, caused its HE round to zip right through a structure or woodline, partially cured by fitting a *superquick* grazing fuze for HE work.

HVAP worked on killing Tigers in the 57mm/six-pounder antitank gun as well, and it's interesting to speculate how the 57mm-turreted version of the Ford M8/M20 Greyhound would have fared, had it reached serial production.

81 posted on 05/17/2019 1:29:05 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)

I remember our M109A1, 155mm, battery going to a tank range at Graf to practice direct fire. I was a 13E, fire direction center, and was there in our M577 FDC track. I also recall many hours doing nuke fire mission calculations AND being trained to assemble those rounds.

My timeframe was 1966-70, including service as the commander of out two-vehicle armored assault *scissors bridge* section- which had more firepower than the rest of out tank battalion put together. Our MOS was 11-E[ducated]!

82 posted on 05/17/2019 1:40:22 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)

“HVAP worked on killing Tigers in the 57mm/six-pounder antitank gun as well” - well, for certain values of “worked.” The PIAT gun ‘worked’ too but it was often lethally hard on the PIAT crew.

83 posted on 05/17/2019 1:44:38 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)

Tanks. I really appreciate tanks.

Good man. Now tighten all the lugnuts on the loader's side track center guides. When you're done, you can do the ones on the gunner's side.

Isn't this *Glory of the Cavalry stuff great?

84 posted on 05/17/2019 1:48:34 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)

T-34/85 (and other Russian tanks): What center guide lugnuts, Comrade?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtj_TSOHjw

85 posted on 05/17/2019 2:00:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)

Finishing the war as a driver, he missed shooting at people, and so had a 2.36-inch bazooka wired to the tank's barrel, fired by means of his horn button. He said it was great at night, but the backblast necessitated an immediate relocation at night- the flash gave away your position instantly.

Good anecdote - American ingenuity. :-)

86 posted on 05/17/2019 2:12:12 PM PDT by Oatka

T-34/85 (and other Russian tanks): What center guide lugnuts, Comrade?

None at all. However, the ends of the pin that connects the track shoes wears down and rub off, and can separate a track in as little as a hundred miles in stony or rocky country. BTW: Comrade/tovarisch went out of style with the end of the Soviet Union. It's mostly [citizen] now.

87 posted on 05/25/2019 11:57:35 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)

Yes, but given the timeframe this thread is talking about, WW2 - “comrade” is appropriate. :P

88 posted on 05/25/2019 5:09:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)

Yes, but given the timeframe this thread is talking about, WW2 - “comrade” is appropriate. :P

Da, tovariscvh! But then it's Great Patriotic War we're talkim about. Za Rodina! Za Stalina! Urrrrah!

89 posted on 06/04/2019 10:22:09 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)

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