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Trump Off 2020 Ballot: Democrats in 17 States Demand Tax Returns...or Else

[texokie: How interesting that it is actually “17” states attempting this!”]

https://youtu.be/3uSu-Muplyg
About 20 minutes in length

Bill Whittle
[This is the blurb below the youtube screen:]

Bill Whittle
Published on May 8, 2019

“Legislation in 17 states would remove President Donald Trump from the 2020 presidential election ballot if he doesn’t release his tax returns. Trump has said his IRS returns are perfectly legal and his finances excellent, so why shouldn’t the president just release the documents to make the issue go away, and to shut up the Democrats? But if the Constitution has only two requirements for presidential eligibility — age and ‘natural born’ citizenship — can states really add another?...”

Texokie notes on the clip:
Bill and another guy (Scott?) are engaged in an interesting dialog/debate about this topic: Should the POTUS release the tax returns?

The removal from the ballots is supposedly hinging on the idea that POTUS Trump has not released his tax returns.

Presidents are not required to turn in tax returns. Bear in mind that when the Constution was written, there was no IRS/Income tax, and hence no situation exists in the original Constitution where there are tax returns and tax return records. The requirement is not made of presidents and representatives because there was no such thing as a tax return when the Constitution was written.

There is brief discussion of it being unconstitutional for a state to remove a candidate from the ballot.

Noted is that the democrat hollering and actions such as ballot name removal is the foot stomping of a child who is being dragged out of the store without the toy.

They know it is not Constitutional, and if Trump is not legally required to turn over his tax returns, then this thing will explode in their faces as usual. It will highlight to the American public that the democrats have no other agenda than to STOP PRESIDENT TRUMP.

Trump had said that he would release his tax returns at some point around the time Jim Comey said to him that he was not under investigation.

Noted is the fact that Presidents have released their returns as a courtesy, not because it was a requirement. This was happening during the times that the FBI was indeed an independent agency. This guy makes the case that no President should ever release their tax returns again. It is a courtesy and practice that has expired because of the blowing up of that courtesy by the demands for that which is not required. He likens it to Harry Reid blowing up the filibuster senate rule with the nuclear option. That courtesy is gone now.

Discussion back and forth as to why a Prez should release tax returns and why not. The discussion meandered into a discussion about Obama’s turning over birth certificate - One of the guys maintains that it is a completely different thing; the need to establish the eligibility of the candidate as per the requirements of the Constitution; not as the invasion of privacy which turning over the tax returns would be. The way a public vets someone to see if they handle money appropriately is to do the criminal background check.

A point has been made that during the Obama Administration the IRS had been weaponized against the American People…. Another reason not to release the tax returns.

The Seattle representative [I could not discern if this was a federal rep or a state rep… I think state rep] of one of richest districts which houses Bill Gates, has also refused to turn over her tax returns. No, she is not required to do so…. But she is demanding that Trump do so.

Topic of the Jim Comey 45 minute Hillary indictment in which it was concluded that no reasonable prosecutor would pursue the case, came up.

In such a climate as we live in today, he uses the analogy of how soldiers who are willing to help wounded enemy combatants by sending our medics to help, are discouraged from doing so once the pattern is perceived that the wounded enemy combatants are prone to blowing up themselves and the medics with a hand grenade. In like measure, why would the POTUS intentionally be courteous and release that data about himself, when it will be treated as a loaded weapon against him?

I do not recall seeing Bill Whittle before, but at this time, I am inclined to report that I would listen to him again.


1,412 posted on 05/08/2019 1:57:45 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: TEXOKIE
I do not recall seeing Bill Whittle before,

Bill Whittle's a pretty good egg, and sharp, if I recall correctly.


1,415 posted on 05/08/2019 2:02:03 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: TEXOKIE

Since there is no constitutional requirement for a Presidential candidate to release tax returns these 17 states have built their case on very weak ground and it would be a shame if the Supreme Court ruled their electors are invalid.


1,420 posted on 05/08/2019 2:06:48 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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To: TEXOKIE

Trump Off 2020 Ballot: Democrats in 17 States Demand Tax Returns...or Else
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I’ve been wondering if POTUS is letting Dems/DS get all worked up about his tax returns until they’re frothing at the mouth.. thinking his tax returns are the Holy Grail (like the Mueller Report). And just at the right moment the audit will be finished and he will release them. And the tax returns will be a HUGE nothing burger...then any whiff of credibility they may have had left will completely evaporate...

One can hope


1,424 posted on 05/08/2019 2:17:54 PM PDT by StormFlag (Even in the mud and scum of things, something always, always sings. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: TEXOKIE

I do not recall seeing Bill Whittle before, but at this time, I am inclined to report that I would listen to him again.
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Believe Whittle is really good, sharp, well spoken and on our side.


1,450 posted on 05/08/2019 4:22:21 PM PDT by christianbasque (Toasting an Irish coffee to my beloved Carol & Sean...)
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