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Why can’t we build anything anymore?
TechCrunch ^ | 02/28/2019 | Danny Crichton, Arman Tabatabai

Posted on 03/01/2019 9:29:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Last week, California governor Gavin Newsom announced that he was intending to aggressively scale back plans for the state’s high-speed rail system, which in its most ambitious routing would have connected Sacramento to San Diego. The immediate cause was ballooning costs, which have risen from $33 billion to $77 billion and looked likely to exceed 1.6 Zuckerbergs within a couple of years (the local CA currency, otherwise known as $100 billion).

Unlike other megaprojects, Newsom — and California — were fortunate on the timing. The costs of the project skyrocketed so much and so early that Newsom still had the credibility and political capital to kill the project. And while a short route from Bakersfield to Merced remains on the table, I don’t expect even that route to be ultimately constructed, since no one knows where either of those cities are.

Why can’t we (i.e. America) build anything? High-speed rail isn’t Silicon Valley whizbang magic technology, it’s definitely not Hyperloop. It’s pretty standard in a bunch of industrialized nations around the world. Clearly that question was on the minds of reporters, because we have been inundated with autopsies on HSR. Yet, the hot takes don’t seem to be adding up to anything meaningful (surprise).

So, we are going to explore this question over the coming weeks, as one of our newest obsessions here at Extra Crunch.

This weekend, I read a book called “Politics Across the Hudson: The Tappan Zee Megaproject.” In the book, Philip Mark Plotch chronicles the 40 years of planning that led to the reconstruction of the Tappan Zee bridge over the Hudson River, which connects Rockland and Westchester Counties north of New York City. If you want to read about the weeds of government dysfunction around infrastructure, this is your book. It’s a telling tale of patterns we see repeatedly when trying to build great things in the United States:

News that the Transbay Terminal is something like $300 million over budget should not come as a shock to anyone.

We always knew the initial estimate was way under the real cost. Just like we never had a real cost for the Central Subway or the Bay Bridge or any other massive construction project. So get off it.

In the world of civic projects, the first budget is really just a down payment. If people knew the real cost from the start, nothing would ever be approved.

The idea is to get going. Start digging a hole and make it so big, there’s no alternative to coming up with the money to fill it in.

Of course, that model can lead to situations like Boston’s Big Dig, where the final ticket price for a project is so high that it effectively bankrupts an entire city and its transportation system for years to come.

Infrastructure finance may not be a sexy topic, but it is absolutely critical to getting a project done. It’s hard to tuck tens of billions of dollars in a line item in the state’s budget, and it is hard to get the different funding levers of government involved when a project’s finances aren’t clear.


One thing I was surprised reading about the Tappan Zee bridge is that the actual construction phase was relatively uneventful. The bridge was built mostly on time and on budget, mostly due to extreme attention from the NY governors’s office to not allow deviations (except to stop construction on July 4th so that construction wouldn’t mar riverfront BBQs).

Four years and billions of dollars to rebuild a bridge might be ridiculous, but so were the 36 years of planning that preceded the reconstruction. Maybe that pattern isn’t true for every project, but the lesson of Politics Across the Hudson is that once the government had a plan and timing on its side, it was (relatively) smooth-sailing to the finish line.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: building; infrastructure
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1 posted on 03/01/2019 9:29:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

All these projects contain the perfect storm. Big business, big government and big labor.

Don’t walk away, run.


2 posted on 03/01/2019 9:31:26 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: SeekAndFind

Occam’s Razor Answer: the graft and corruption has reached such dizzying levels that by the time you are ready to actually break ground there’s no cash left in the till.


3 posted on 03/01/2019 9:32:18 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
The sage voicing a of 44 ringing in my ears of "You didn't build that! Somebody else built that!". So, I simply let someone else build it now. Whatever it is and whoever it is doing it. 🙀😹😹😹
4 posted on 03/01/2019 9:33:32 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The architects, engineers, and workers are perfectly of building things.

Our government of incompetent cannot hold any real jobs critters are capable of destroying the construction of a wedge.

The solution is obvious. Use bureaucrats and politicians for concrete filler. Worked for Jimmy Hoffa.


5 posted on 03/01/2019 9:33:45 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: outpostinmass2

America’s Republic is increasingly reminding me of Brazil or India’s “democracies” - partially socialist, with everyone belonging to their own bloc and voting as such. Public money isn’t just for building or administering, its for mollifying and paying off everyone connected to the process, and those who can worm their way in for a cut.

Things become extremely expensive and bureaucratic very quickly.


6 posted on 03/01/2019 9:35:06 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
Why can’t we build anything anymore?

1) No cheap labor
2) The EPA
3) The liberal court system that is willing to issue an injunction over a frog.

7 posted on 03/01/2019 9:37:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And a project is always way over budget. Which means either the project managers don’t know what they are doing or they intentionally under bid so that the project will be approved.

And the attitude is - who cares, it is the taxpayers paying and taxpayers have deep pockets.


8 posted on 03/01/2019 9:39:03 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

Why can’t we build anything anymore?


Define “we”.

“We” build a hell of a lot of Toyotas, Corvettes and Ford Trucks in Kentucky.


9 posted on 03/01/2019 9:41:43 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind
All things in the USA will continue to deteriorate as long as White Males are denied the jobs and opportunities given women and other AA types.

Eventually everything will collapse into Civil War and no-one will go back and connect the dots as to why. The USA, as I've known it, will never be the same again.

10 posted on 03/01/2019 9:42:56 AM PST by blam
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To: SeekAndFind

You know why it was cancelled? Trump wasn’t building it.


11 posted on 03/01/2019 9:42:57 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: SeekAndFind

Because the U.S. is controlled by affirmative action and political correctness.


12 posted on 03/01/2019 9:42:58 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: SeekAndFind
The article doesn't go into the actual reason - a sclerotic left-wing bureaucracy that imposes unreasonable costs on building anything in California. Only the extremely wealthy (like Apple or Facebook) can build out campuses at will. Housing is ridiculously overpriced. We have a freeway system meant for traffic in the '50s, '60s and '70s, along with an electric grid that was meant for power consumption in the '60s.

Make dumb liberal policy, win dumb liberal prizes. California is rapidly turning into a decrepit Third World socialist dirthole with good weather - a few very wealthy people along with a lot of poor people. The middle class has pretty much left and won't be back.
13 posted on 03/01/2019 9:45:29 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

“News that the Transbay Terminal is something like $300 million over budget should not come as a shock to anyone.”

The other, more egregious area where this goes on is military weapons systems. I don’t think in either case though, you can place all the blame on the contractors. When you want to have a talk about real collusion, you have to examine the unholy alliance between the same three elements, big government, big business and big unions, and their complete lack of candor an honesty. And until we see substantial prosecutions of all three, we don’t stand a chance of eliminating our national debt.
These three are simply another manifestation of people looking for “free $hit!’


14 posted on 03/01/2019 9:45:47 AM PST by vette6387 (Fire Mueller)
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To: SeekAndFind

All this occurs under liberals running these urban areas, micromanaging and giving rewards to, and geting kickbacks from cronies, plus demanding women and minority percentages that have nothing to do with the goal of the project or staying on timeline or budget, passing these projects on unrealistic extremely underestimated costs and timelines, knowing once its started they will get approvals for tax increases because the projects started, its got to get done...


15 posted on 03/01/2019 9:45:50 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“no cheap labor”

Seriously? You seriously think low and middle class Americans are over paid?

My dad had a small construction company in the early 70’s. He paid carpenters $8-10 an hour. A car cost $3k and a house cost $30k.

In that area now carpenters are paid $12-14 an hour. Cars and houses are an order of magnitude higher.

And you think they are over paid?

Open borders, globalism, and Fedzilla are the problems. Not a lack of ‘cheap labor’. ugh.


16 posted on 03/01/2019 9:46:14 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: outpostinmass2
Big business + big government + big labor

In many cases, that adds up to questionable projects based on very sketchy assumptions. The California high speed train is the poster child for that. Who in the world needs a TRAIN when you have hundreds of daily flights all over the state that get you where you want to go, when you want to be there, and at low fares? A train rides on a fixed route railbed (which is very expensive to maintain), doesn't run often, stops everywhere, and will have sky-high fares subsidized by government from here to eternity. Only a dyed-in-the-wool marxist climate-change zealot would even propose such a stupid project. But got bought into because of that triumvirate of Business / Government / Labor.

In the end, we probably flushed $10 billion down the toilet.

17 posted on 03/01/2019 9:47:33 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

We can build anyhing anymore for several reasons:
1 - Too much red tape, fees, studies and regulatory heavy handedness
2 - Schools that want to indoctrinate and not actually educate
3 - Too much outsourceing of our technology
4 - Foreign pirating of our intellectual property
more.....


18 posted on 03/01/2019 9:48:01 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: cuban leaf
RE: Define “we”.


19 posted on 03/01/2019 9:48:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: TheTimeOfMan
“no cheap labor”

Seriously? You seriously think low and middle class Americans are over paid?

My dad had a small construction company in the early 70’s. He paid carpenters $8-10 an hour. A car cost $3k and a house cost $30k.

Do you seriously think that a unionized Teamster operating an execavator on a State or Federal construction project is making $10/hr?

20 posted on 03/01/2019 9:50:34 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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