Posted on 02/17/2019 6:03:15 PM PST by Libloather
There are cases of people genetically one but externally the other. They do not know unless some chromosome test is done.
As for hormones, ALL people have all the sex hormones. Just low on what is not associated with their sex.
This is one thing I 100% agree with Martina on.
Being gay doesn’t disqualify her from being critical of mentally ill men who think they are women and play women’s sports.
Oh, so NOW gays want to get all “Conservative” on us?
Yes, they are cheating but surgery simply removes the obvious.
It does not change the inherent muscular strength or build that has come to be in a maturing and mature male body, and that will always give that person an unfair advantage in competition.
Not really. Navratilova was one of the first out and proud gay athletes. Not the same thing. Karl Marx was wrong about most things that mattered but he did manage to pen a few memorable lines. One of these was his crack about history repeating itself, the first time as tragedy, the second as farce. Ok, it was a joke about Louis Napoleon and was not meant as literally true, but we take the point.
The current trans nonsense is farce. The far more important analogue was fought out a couple or three generations ago when the notion of "no enemies to the left" led mainstream liberals to turn a blind eye to the substantial infiltration of communists and scattered other fringe radicals into liberal left institutions and movements. One of the most interesting long-running dramas of the Cold War era was the often lonely struggle of anti-communist liberals to keep the totalitarians out of the tent. (At this point, they seem to have finally failed.)
Intersectionality is the new buzzword, but it is really not a new thing. Anyone who has been engaged in practical politics during my lifetime probably has experience with the remarkable solidarity of the left. There are scattered exceptions, but with remarkable regularity, and regardless of the issue, the entire left pivots like a flock of birds. At stake may be an obscure environmental kertuffle, let's say a logging permit in a national forest, and here come not just the "everything must be wilderness" enviros, but the whole phalanx of liberal interest groups across the spectrum. From the League of Women Voters to the ACLU to organized labor to the civil rights groups to the gay lobby to Klingons for Gun Control, they're all on the coalition letters and half of them help lobby the issue. The press almost monolithically adopts the new party line instantly. There is really no equivalent to this on the right. The leftist groupthink and collective action is astonishing. The entire left thinks reflectively in terms of lockstep mutual support.
The sexual revolutionaries have trodden the same path. The Supreme Court conjured gay marriage out of nothing in the Obergfell decision. A lot of people on the right sighed, and then washed their hands and said, "well, at least we're finally done with the issue." Not so. Within a few months, the Obama administration vomited up a "Dear Colleague" letter from the bowels of the Department of Education fundamentally redefining sex and gender for purposes of Title IX. This was not a regulation which would have involved a formal rulemaking process, but an entirely unilateral administrative guidance letter issued with no notice or discussion -- one moment, nothing; the next moment, presto, there it is. The Department of Labor and the Department of Justice and in short order every other Obama run agency announced that it would also conform in this bold new world. And overnight, without missing a beat, the entire left fell in line and commenced hysterical demonization of anyone who still thinks that XX and XY chromosomes are determinative, that men can't have babies and women don't have penises. This happened literally overnight. There is really no analogue to this on the right.
Yes, it's insane. But look beyond the mere insanity to the totalitarian groupthink that drives the campaign. Martina Navratilova is in precisely the situation of the traditional liberal academic, looking out his office window one bright spring day in 1967, who saw his grad students burning American flags and chanting "Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh", discovered that most of his faculty colleagues were in solidarity with them (or at least would not object), and too late began to wonder when the history department was taken over by the totalitarians.
People like Martina Navratilova should be supported when they dissent from the hive. She may still disagree with us on most issues, but she's like the early neo-conservatives who may have been liberals on most social and economic issues but who rejected Stalinism, communism, and the police state left. At this point, we are the embattled opposition in the culture wars. Reality is on our side. Common sense is on our side. Independent thinking will lead people our way. Anything that disrupts the left's attempt to enforce conformity of thought should be encouraged. I'll take allies of convenience where I can find them, and try to help them find their way out of the darkness.
I think we all know she was a libber in addition to being homosexual.
Like nearly all of them, she hates men, even men who think they are women. When her feminism runs afoul of her man hatred, the male hatred wins out.
Lefties don’t care that other leftist have creating a twisted bass ackward world.
Untill and unless it affects them.
They still can’t see, and or could care less, about the rest of the leftist madness.
Martina has committed thoughtcrime. If she doubles down and stands her ground, she will be targeted for a two minute hate.
Dissenters should be supported, not uncritically, but sympathetically. Looking at the record of adult conversions from leftism, the breaking point often comes when a person can no longer stomach the lies. You never know what life triggers them; what incident becomes a lie too far? Sometimes dissent is short-lived. Martina may try to grovel her way back into safe territory. But other times, dissent leads a person onto a long march -- to points unknown, but not infrequently on the right. Whether Martina has the chops to make such a journey, I don't know. But I'll applaud her when she stands up for common sense. This is dangerous to do on the left.
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