I wonder if the police can obtain a phone recording of the actual call.
Phone recordings are kept for a limited time by the phone companies.
The delay in releasing the records may be an attempt to insure the phone recording is not available.
This source says all telephone conversations are kept for five years! That was in 2013!
Such recordings may not be available to local police, such as the Chicago P.D., for example.
Why not give them the phone....?
“Phone records are not the same as phone recordings.”
Didn’t we go through all this before with a birth “record” versus a birth “certificate”, and a good number of freepers didn’t care about the difference?
Hate to tell you this, but phone conversations are NOT routinely recorded. Only if there is an existing warrant. Tower, duration, time, originating and terminating number and a host of other characteristics of the call are saved for 90 days. The source that says phone conversations are kept for 5 years is totally FOS.
Why not give them the phone....?
Unless there’s some incredibly new technology out there, the phone companies do not have a recording of anyone’s call. I don’t even know where to begin with that, Invasion of Privacy lawsuit. They do however, have the ability to document who called who, who texted who, and the location those communications were made from. In some cases, they can try to recover a text message. But, with all the data being transmitted thru cyberspace, it’s a matter of them not having enough storage and the attempt to recover that information from cyberspace has to be made within a day or so. Otherwise, you’re pulling that info off the person’s phone. Or at least that is what they tell you.
What the NSA does or has is a different story, as they’re pulling that info out of the air, literally.
I’ve written search warrants for that stuff. You get the date and time stamp of all comm’s, both ingoing and outgoing. And depending on how much information you want, it can take a while. With all the noise surrounding this case, it could have been closed within a few days, if that. CPD is big enough that they could call whatever carrier the guy uses and subpoena the records and get them in a timely manner. Especially if the time frame is narrowed down to only a few hours. Those records would include where he was when the calls were made and where his manager was at the time. If they get the phone and are allowed to go thru it, they can determine if stuff has been erased/deleted. However, unless he used, Bleachbit or something like it, all that data is still on the phone, because Bleachbit wipes the whole thing. Then CPD gets a search warrant to go through his phone. If he doesn’t provide the code, he can be held for obstruction.
Either way, CPD has turned this into a circus when it didn’t have to be. Clearly the detectives working the case are getting orders from above to do their level best to come up with something, even though they all know this is BS.
Well lets hope they’re not. Do you really want recordings of your phone calls available to whatever Police Department wants them?