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To: Vigilanteman

Thanks!

I think I learn more on FR than anywhere. Born in the 50’s, I remember hearing about all that when it happened, but as I was young these were just names in the background. I seem to remember Tshombe being portrayed as a good guy in the US media, but I could be wrong.


6 posted on 01/13/2019 5:07:08 AM PST by PlateOfShrimp
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To: PlateOfShrimp
According to the account which I read, JFK personally liked Tshombe, LBJ did not. JFK saw him as a model leader of post-colonial Africa; LBJ saw him as an uppity n***** who would be impossible to control. If you look at old photographs, Tshombe is much darker skinned with more traditional African features than his rivals. This played a big part in African racism which, contrary to popular belief, exists throughout most of the continent.

LBJ was a globalist at heart. The first two Kennedy bothers were mostly Americans at heart.

Bobby had served as a staffer of Sen. Joseph McCarthy but devolved into more of a globalist after his brother's assassination, but still had not made the complete transformation. Remember, his assassin was a Jew hater who did not like the Kennedy family's tilt to Israel.

8 posted on 01/13/2019 5:21:16 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: PlateOfShrimp

Same here. Even though I was only a young kid, I remember hearing many of those names at the time. Of course being a kid I was blissfully unaware of such machinations in high places.


11 posted on 01/13/2019 5:32:38 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: PlateOfShrimp
I seem to remember Tshombe being portrayed as a good guy in the US media, but I could be wrong.

No, you were right. Tshombe was treated as a pariah by the international Left. In 1964, when he tried to attend a summit meeting of the Organization of African Unity in Cairo, which he was entitled to as Congo Leopoldville's head of government, the Egyptians essentially kidnapped him and held him in a hotel for the duration of the conference.

The international Left, from Peking and Moscow to Harvard and Berkeley breathed a collective sigh of relief when "Diamond Joe" Mobutu overthrew Tshombe in a November, 1965 coup. A year and a half later, Tshombe was imprisoned in Algeria when his plane was hijacked and flown there. Of course, no one in the West lifted a finger in response to this act of international lawlessness. In 1969, he died from a "heart attack" while still in captivity in Algeria.

13 posted on 01/13/2019 5:44:18 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: PlateOfShrimp

My college roommate grew up in Congo, the son of missionaries. He could not say enough good about Tshombe and said a few additional `mercs’ could have kept Katanga independent.

Lumumba was a communist stooge & there is Lumumba University in Moscow to this day, indoctrinating third world students in Marxism-Leninism.

Joseph Mobutu was just like Mugabe, Nkruma, Sekou-Toure & all the other tin-pot dictators of the region. He later became Mobutu Sese Seko which means “the rooster who leaves no hen untouched”.

By 1960 the United Nations had become utterly corrupt in backing anti-western regimes in the Third World. The U.S. should have gotten out then.


25 posted on 01/13/2019 7:43:49 AM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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