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Trump Is Sabotaging Himself (and His Party) by Pandering to His Base
Townhall ^ | 12/19/2018 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/19/2018 9:19:53 PM PST by Signalman

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To: Signalman

I can hardly wait to see what Vox Day has to say about this column of Jonah’s...


21 posted on 12/19/2018 9:39:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Signalman

Keeping his promises in not ‘pandering to his base’.


22 posted on 12/19/2018 9:41:53 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Signalman

If Trump stops on the wall, it will be the equal of gramps Bush breaking his Read my lips line.


23 posted on 12/19/2018 9:42:59 PM PST by lurk
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To: lurk

It is not TRUMP who will stop the wall. It will be disloyal GOP Senators and Representatives. He will come out on top. They will go down in flames.


24 posted on 12/19/2018 10:00:56 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm ( 32:12))
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To: Signalman

Jonah Goldberg is a never Trump idiot in the mold of Bill Krystol and George Will. He is too stupid to realize that what elitist twits like him call “pandering to his base” is what normal people call keeping his promises. He is also too insulated to realize how many people he thinks are on his side despise him and his buddies.


25 posted on 12/19/2018 10:06:59 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Signalman

He hasn’t been pandering to me for a while now. Where’s the wall?


26 posted on 12/19/2018 10:12:44 PM PST by albie
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To: Signalman

And here I thought that Trump was caving to the left and the RINOs at every turn; our cadre of screaming Never-Trumpers keep telling me so.

WHICH IS IT?!


27 posted on 12/19/2018 10:15:19 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Signalman

I remember Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt spewing Out how if that terrible Ted a Cruz caused a government shutdown, surely the Reoublicans were doomed in the ‘14 mid term.

What happened? Republicans won both houses big time.


28 posted on 12/19/2018 10:15:24 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: albie

He hasn’t been pandering to me for a while now. Where’s the wall?

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Hard to do when his so-called supporters evaporate whenever push comes to shove.

Those of you who don’t outright stab him in the back that is.


29 posted on 12/19/2018 10:16:57 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
Whatever Jonah Goldberg, David Frum or Bill Kristol say, I can confidently assume the opposite is true. They put another nation’s interests first. I can say this as a Jew because it is true.

As soon as I saw it was Jonah Goldberg, I didn’t bother reading it.

30 posted on 12/19/2018 10:58:21 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Signalman
# of 9/11 hijackers from
Saudi Arabia 15
United Arab Emirates 2
Egypt 1
Lebanon 1
Iraq 0

“If we had known then what we know now, we would never have gone to war with Iraq in 2003.”  —  Jonah Goldberg

31 posted on 12/19/2018 11:16:28 PM PST by greedo
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To: Signalman

Goldberg is an anti-Trumper and not only mischaracterizes meeting but also repeats fake news.


32 posted on 12/19/2018 11:55:58 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Signalman

Let me let you in on a little secret Jonah. The GOP no longer has a base. It’s now Trump’s base. If those who voted for Trump have to choose between supporting a president who delivers what he promises or an elite GOP establishment that has lied to them all these years, they’ll choose Trump. If this GOP thing you speak of wants a future, it needs to dump people like you and embrace the MAGA movement.


33 posted on 12/19/2018 11:59:03 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: Signalman

They fear that the disaffected who don’t vote will change their minds and vote for Trump. And they’re right to fear that.


34 posted on 12/20/2018 12:00:08 AM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: mbrfl

Exactly! Get with Trump or “get lost”.

It’s really that simple.


35 posted on 12/20/2018 12:04:07 AM PST by unclebankster (globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: Signalman

Every action taken is pandering to one base or another. Trump panders to We the People instead of the globalists. I respect him for that. Jonah Goldberg would rather he pander to the liberal democrat base. I have no respect for Goldberg.


36 posted on 12/20/2018 12:26:25 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Signalman

Set aside the idiocy that townhall gave him a byline, Jonah is basically saying Trump needs to make appeals to Democrats like him since we’re on the way out thanks to a set in stone open borders policy. Sort of like Republican Jeff Flake’s new global warming tax bill. That’s how you connect with the suburbs.


37 posted on 12/20/2018 12:31:44 AM PST by MountainWalker
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To: Signalman

According to the LA Times. That’s when I stopped reading. I thought somebody said there were TV cameras there.


38 posted on 12/20/2018 1:07:58 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Signalman

Well ok...DC swamp scum knows best...


39 posted on 12/20/2018 1:38:56 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: Signalman

Never-Trumpers want Trump to listen to their problematic political philosophy and policy goals because then they win. That’s the basic problem of the Never-Trumpers, they are not about the policy goals of the voters. They are about coming up with the barest minimum of what Americans can stomach that will still fly, maybe.

Trump very well may abandon the voters if he feels like he is getting no support because the swamp is still undrained. Heck, he will also be subject to all sorts of unholy alliances to get what he needs because he is a man who makes deals with whoever is at the table.

The swamp has to get drained because it has become an entrenched bubble that is increasingly ideological and thus untethered from reality.


40 posted on 12/20/2018 1:39:29 AM PST by BlackAdderess (I remember when a person's thoughts were their own and not everyone else's responsibility)
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