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It's official. Microsoft pushes Google over the Edge, shifts browser to Chromium engine
The Register ^ | Dec 6, 2018 | Thomas Claburn

Posted on 12/06/2018 9:19:13 PM PST by dayglored

RIP: The Edge is dead... as in the EdgeHTML layout code

Microsoft on Thursday said it intends to use the open-source Chromium browser engine in the desktop version of its Edge browser, promising the two per cent of global internet users who favor Edge an improved web experience.

Joe Belfiore, corporate veep of Windows, announced the plan, which was reported earlier this week. "Ultimately, we want to make the web experience better for many different audiences," he said.

One of those audiences may be macOS users, who despite not clamoring for Edge should have access to Microsoft's browser at some point: Belfiore said the company expects to bring Edge to other platforms like macOS.

Web developers have the most to gain. They can expect fewer incompatibility issues, which continue to bedevil the web ecosystem. As can be seen from caniuse.com, a website that shows which features are available in which browsers, there's still a lot of fragmentation and quirky browser behavior.

As the same time, the emerging Chromium monoculture could have a downside. Vulnerabilities in the open source project may affect a broader set of browsers and innovations developed for Safari and Firefox may not be adopted elsewhere. Chromium is the foundation of Google Chrome, though the open source project is distinct from the company-owned browser.

In a slightly cheeky tweet Sean Lyndersay, principal lead program manager for Microsoft Edge, pointed out that his team needs new developers for the browser.

I feel like this may be an appropriate time to mention: We're hiring. :) https://t.co/nq0y10jRgF — Sean Lyndersay (@SeanOnTwt) December 6, 2018

Open up

The new Edge won't be a Universal Windows Platform app in order to make it usable outside of Windows 10, which accounts for about half of all Windows installations. Instead, it will be build in accordance with the Win32 API, for compatibility with Windows 7 and 8 as well as 10. A preview release is planned for early 2019.

Microsoft's decision to change browser engines in mid-flight demonstrates the difficulty of matching the pace of active open source projects. Once Edge shifts to a Chromium foundation, the company intends to deliver browser updates for all Windows versions "on a more frequent cadence."

Students of web history may recall Mozilla in 2011 did something similar, shifting to a shorter release cycle for Firefox in response to Google's rapid-fire Chrome updates.

Microsoft's decision to shift Edge to Chromium is less surprising in light of Edge for Android and iOS, which run on the Blink rendering engine from Chromium and WebKit (the basis of Apple's Safari browser) respectively.

The Register asked Microsoft what this shift means for ChakraCore, its Edge JavaScript engine which the company has been trying to integrate with Node.js via its Node-ChakraCore project as an alternative to Google's V8 JavaScript engine. A company spokesperson declined to respond.

Microsoft has outlined its intended plan of action in a GitHub post. In the near term, the company said it intends to finish porting the Chromium codebase to support ARM-64, to improve accessibility in Chromium via Microsoft assistive technology, to add support for modern input mechanisms like touch controls, and to contribute to ongoing security hardening.

"This is a big step for Microsoft, for the Microsoft Edge team, and we recognize it will be a big step for the Chromium project as well," the company says. "We are enthusiastic about the benefit we believe this will bring to the larger web community."

Meanwhile... Firefox maker Mozilla isn't happy, blogging today that: "Microsoft is officially giving up on an independent shared platform for the internet. By adopting Chromium, Microsoft hands over control of even more of online life to Google."

The software foundation has a point. "Making Google more powerful is risky on many fronts," said Moz's Chris Beard.

"And a big part of the answer depends on what the web developers and businesses who create services and websites do. If one product like Chromium has enough market share, then it becomes easier for web developers and businesses to decide not to worry if their services and sites work with anything other than Chromium."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: bluescreenofdeath; chromium; crashandburn; edge; google; microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored
Web developers have the most to gain.
They can expect fewer incompatibility issues, which continue to bedevil the web ecosystem.
As can be seen from caniuse.com, a website that shows which features are available in which browsers,
there's still a lot of fragmentation and quirky browser behavior.
 
 

61 posted on 12/07/2018 12:10:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dayglored

MS Browsers have been crap on a cracker since the original IE... why anyone would voluntarily run them makes no sense to me.


62 posted on 12/07/2018 12:13:55 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: dayglored

I’m running Edge on the iPhone.


63 posted on 12/07/2018 12:22:05 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TomGuy; SaveFerris
I am at Firefox ESR 52.4. It still allows most of my add-ons to work and has the classic GUI. I did run across a little program that enhances FF and the various renditions of it — FIREMIN. It seems to have taken control of the memory leaking Firefox has had since about version 0.7. I installed it a few weeks ago and occasionally check the FF usage through Task Manager. My FF memory usage dropped from 900meg to 15meg. https://www.rizonesoft.com/downloads/firemin/

I am at 52.9.0 (64-bit) with many extensions, and multiple installs and profiles, but with 16GM of ram than the use of that is not a real problem, and so for one profile I moved the cached data to RAM in the interest of speed. This does not affect the cached date of add ons, so that such a add-on like Session Manager works fine.

When RAM use gets to high then I just hit the Memory Restart button.

64 posted on 12/07/2018 3:19:29 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

Thanks for the info. This machine is 8gb RAM and Windows 8.1.

So.....

I need to fire up another machine but it’s been having weird reliability problems.


65 posted on 12/07/2018 3:34:53 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
Thanks for the info. This machine is 8gb RAM and Windows 8.1. So..... I need to fire up another machine but it’s been having weird reliability problems.

Yes, 8Gb for a 64 bit rig is not enough (and 32 bit will not use more than 3.5gb) for running much more than the OS. Check event viewer (eventvwr in run command)>Admin events on the other.

66 posted on 12/07/2018 7:47:30 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

I’m maxxed out on this laptop. It was at 4gig and then I wound up with some more memory. I don’t think my other box is but 8 as well. My old Vista (ha) laptop is 2gig.

Maybe some day I’ll have money again. There are still guys around me doing Windows 7 builds I think. Haven’t checked them in a few months.


67 posted on 12/07/2018 7:57:09 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

When life emerged from the electronic primordial goo in Elsie’s basement; it had 256 bytes of RAM.


68 posted on 12/08/2018 4:28:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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