[jeffersondem]

“As leader of the anti-Federalist opposition to the Washington & Adams administrations, Jefferson was the “big dog” growling at the Constitution with his “nullification” doctrine. Standing beside Jefferson was little Madison, yapping his two cents worth: “interposition”.”

I suppose I could turn loose the Father of the Constitution and the Author of the Declaration of Independence - you call them growling and yapping dogs - on your stale, vanishing rabbit trail. But why?

For my purposes it is sufficient that you memorialize your bizarre musings about - and contempt for - these southern Founding Fathers.

[BroJoeK]

jeffersondem: "For my purposes it is sufficient that you memorialize your bizarre musings about - and contempt for - these southern Founding Fathers."

1. Jefferson is listed among the anti-Federalists who opposed ratification of the Constitution in 1788.

2. After ratification Jefferson lead the anti-Federalist, anti-Administration faction against Washington & Adams' Federalists.

3. In opposition Jefferson showed his contempt for the Constitution with his "nullification" doctrine, supported by Madison's "interposition".

4. However, both Presidents Jefferson and Madison showed great respect for the Constitution's power to prevent unilateral unapproved declarations of secession.

So I have great respect for both Founders when they respected the Constitution.
When they disrespected it, then not so much.