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California teens tortured, shot DEAD EXECUTION-STYLE- during trip to Tijuana
AOL ^ | November 29, 2018 | Alex Lasker

Posted on 11/29/2018 5:25:41 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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To: ClearCase_guy

Sadly, you are right. We’ve driven to Ensenada from San Diego for dinner once...years ago...would never go again.


41 posted on 11/29/2018 8:16:14 PM PST by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
Not taking issue with your statement, but in your view what would be some legitimate causes to subject one to torture?

What kind of question is that? Do you have children? If my child were purposely severely hurt, maimed or killed by a malicious evil person without cause but for kicks, that would be cause enough for me to subject the perp to torture. I don't care how heinous that sounds. I would go nuts and do it. I'm not talking about a blind act like a buried IED or bomb. I'm talking about MS-13 type criminals who target innocents.

42 posted on 11/29/2018 8:18:51 PM PST by roadcat
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To: ClearCase_guy

I cannot have sympathy for stupid people or their offspring.

It is, after all, why CA is the state it is and why they keep visiting that shithole of a country.

You couldn’t drag me over that border.


43 posted on 11/29/2018 8:19:23 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: gaijin

I wouldn’t go visiting Tijuana during
all the turmoil that’s happening there
now. This is like hiking on the Iran/
Iraq border. Also, there has been
16,000 murders in the first 6 months
this year, in Mexico.


44 posted on 11/29/2018 9:00:16 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: super7man
I well understand what you are saying.

In the early 80's my former college roommate was attending the Autonoma in Guad. I traveled down there several times while he was there. Trips to Carayes or PV were great times. Never felt unsafe or at risk.

Unfortunately times change in negative directions. Very sad really as the Mexican people are great.

45 posted on 11/29/2018 9:32:53 PM PST by Michael.SF. (California: knowingly give someone aids: misdemeanor. Give them a straw, go to jail.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

meh
Only matter of time California will become Mexico.


46 posted on 11/29/2018 10:20:24 PM PST by A strike (Import Third World become Third World)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I could speculate they went to Tijuana for prostitutes, then the pimps told them to carry drugs back to the states. They refused and were summarily executed. Dumb decision to go into Mexico these days, unfortunately most teens are naive and many parents too weak or lackadaisical to counter it.


47 posted on 11/29/2018 11:04:25 PM PST by Mozzafiato
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To: BenLurkin

Thank God I live in japan, for now, not that Sh!thole.


48 posted on 11/29/2018 11:06:32 PM PST by the_individual2014
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Even people named Gonzales or whatnot are not safe in that shithole. I am always amazed at people who let their kids vacation in Mexico. You’d have to kidnap me to get me across the border.


49 posted on 11/29/2018 11:36:09 PM PST by anton
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To: DLfromthedesert

Plus one

Freepers are always always assholes on threads like these

We have no proof yet they were involved in nasty business

I used to live in Corpus

Several incidents in Matamoros and Reynosa whereby innocent college students in Mexico to party with friends were abducted

Some where killed by a Satan worshipping dope gang run by a Cuban Santeria maniac who sacrificed people for good luck and he paid bad guys to bring him victims he could torture

We’re tslking Goat Head evil here

One of thes boys had never set foot in Mexico before...it’s premature to be condemning dead kids

It never fails here though

Scold central

Empathy being so personally costly


50 posted on 11/29/2018 11:55:51 PM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I think it’s almost 3000

You can be kidnapped by bored low ranking New Generation Cartel of Tijuana for literally 1500 bucks

Make your folks wire it via Walmart to Walmart

I’m not joking .....I have a Guadalajara friend ....it happened to his daughter visiting there once

Now his family gets to the airport they are met by offduty CISEN agents which are like Mexican KGB...and he’s not rich rich....maybe 1-2 million net worth but he has a small finca with cattle outside Guadalajara and local bandits think since he’s now a gringo and has a ranch he must be rich

I think he paid 25,000 to save his daughter...who’s gorgeous btw...I mean fine as frogs hair

It’s a mess...Jalisco used to be really safe

TeeJuana......has always been grubby


51 posted on 11/30/2018 12:08:45 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: Michael.SF.

hookers sounds right. Who were the cartel’s property, who wanted a ransom once they found out the boys were americanos. Someone with their passports and id will show up at the border within the next six months - sold on the black market of course.

I was reading an article earlier about tainted alcohol in Mexico at the resorts. Hundreds of Americans being poisoned, many wake up in the hospital, robbed and beaten, some after only one drink. Others drown or dead otherwise in various states of undress - all robbed. They should autopsy the bodies and not just accept a bullet to the head as definitive. Not that Messico will do it - too embarrassing.


52 posted on 11/30/2018 1:32:25 AM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Hey...i thought mexico was supposed to be some sort of wonderful land of fun, sun and natural beauty.


53 posted on 11/30/2018 8:40:30 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: wardaddy

Interesting. Thank you. Free Republic is a great place to get the expertise and insights of people that know whereof they speak.


54 posted on 11/30/2018 9:36:10 AM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: roadcat

>>What kind of question is that?<<

You misinterpreted my comments and my question. I was not taking issue with your statement at all. I was just curious to know what kinds of criminal acts you had in mind where torture would be justified. Your example regarding your child would surely be on my list as well, and I can think of quite a few more examples where torture would be warranted.


55 posted on 11/30/2018 5:02:56 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (English, the universal language of success.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Yes I did misinterpret. Because some folks are strictly against torture for any reason and take exception to those who feel it is warranted in some cases, as I do.
I know people have different opinions but I can’t understand some.

For instance, DA Kamala Harris caused an uproar in San Francisco when some illegal latinos murdered a family for no reason, and Harris wouldn’t prosecute for the death penalty, pushing for a light sentence. No one could understand how a prosecutor in the D.A.’s office could go easy on the perps while having no sympathy for the victims (a father and sons were murdered). A lot of people wanted the perps to get the death penalty, and wishing they could be tortured.

Unfortunately, our system of justice does not allow for torture. I think it’s warranted in a vigilante situation where innocents related to the vigilante require vengeance.


56 posted on 11/30/2018 5:42:32 PM PST by roadcat
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Ramos

The case in SF that DA Kamala Harris screwed up, causing many to hate her guts.


57 posted on 11/30/2018 5:43:39 PM PST by roadcat
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