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Speaker Ryan: ‘You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order’
Politico.com ^ | 10/20/18 | By BURGESS EVERETT and CAITLIN OPRYSKO

Posted on 10/30/2018 2:52:27 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

Speaker Ryan: ‘You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order’

House Speaker Paul Ryan on Tuesday broke with President Donald Trump on whether an executive order could deny a constitutional guarantee of citizenship to babies born in the U.S. to noncitizen parents.

But despite Ryan's stern rebuttal to the president, the idea of limiting birthright citizenship still has significant cache among congressional Republicans, even if they aren't quite sure how to undo a constitutional guarantee stemming from the 14th Amendment.

Trump told Axios in an interview released Tuesday that the White House counsel had advised him that there was legal standing to terminate birthright citizenship, and Vice President Mike Pence confirmed that the administration was looking into using executive action as well.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; anchorbabies; gopestablishment; idiot; illegals; newsforum; paulryan; rino; ryan; ryno
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1 posted on 10/30/2018 2:52:27 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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"As a conservative, I’m a believer in following the plain text of the Constitution.."

As a conservative?


2 posted on 10/30/2018 2:52:41 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Paul Ryan..... Just freaking go away. Nobody except Romney wants you around.


3 posted on 10/30/2018 2:54:16 PM PDT by dragonblustar (I love reading Trump tweets in the morning.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

STFUPR.


4 posted on 10/30/2018 2:54:26 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; Army Air Corps

That is where you are wrong kiddo!


5 posted on 10/30/2018 2:54:44 PM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Even Zero said you can’t start DACA by executive order either, but here we are.


6 posted on 10/30/2018 2:55:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Ryan is seeing his relevancy slipping away. Poor guy.


7 posted on 10/30/2018 2:55:51 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: KC_Lion

Trump OWNS these people... 4D chess to get the ball rolling.


8 posted on 10/30/2018 2:56:00 PM PDT by FiddlePig (The greatest threat to our sacred liberty is to not value it!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Awww shed up!


9 posted on 10/30/2018 2:56:09 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Who sez?


10 posted on 10/30/2018 2:56:28 PM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: dragonblustar

Isn’t he going? Don’t let the door hit you ...


11 posted on 10/30/2018 2:56:57 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: dragonblustar

Lamest of ducks.


12 posted on 10/30/2018 2:57:32 PM PDT by relictele
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Trump is brilliant. He knows full well that a federal circuit judge in Hawaii and or San Francisco will issue an order blocking his executive order. Probably the ninth circuit in Frisco.

This case will be fast tracked to the Supreme Court and put to bed with a good decision by our two new conservative judges. The right to citizenship will then be defined constitutionally.

I am not tired of winning!


13 posted on 10/30/2018 2:58:28 PM PDT by cpdiii (Cane Cutter, Deckhand,Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"As a conservative, I’m a believer in following the plain text of the Constitution.."

Okay Mr. Plain Text, answer this for me: why is the clause "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" included in the 14th Amendment? I mean, if the 14th Amendment conveyed citizenship to anyone simply born here, that clause would not be necessary, would it?

14 posted on 10/30/2018 2:58:40 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Trump’s answer:

“Watch me.”

When this goes to court, the order staying the action should be ignored.

If I go to a court for a speeding ticket, speed enforcement is not suspended until the case is resolved.


15 posted on 10/30/2018 2:58:40 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I think the no-children-of-illegal-immigrants clause of the 14th Amendment is right before the gay marriage clause and just after the abortion rights clause.


16 posted on 10/30/2018 2:59:18 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That’s Ryan’s personal opinion and he may even hold it honestly. OTOH, I am sure that Trump consulted with Justice Department lawyers and was told he is on firm constitutional ground.

It’s not really going to matter much in the short term. Liberal lawyers are going to be charging into the courts to file injunctions against the order before the ink is dry, and I’m positive they will get one, which means it’s going to have to go all the way up to the Supreme Court before any real decision is made, and that’s going to take a couple years, at least.

So, what is Trump really trying to accomplish here? Thoughts?


17 posted on 10/30/2018 2:59:42 PM PDT by Ronin (I need a new tagline...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

This will end up in the Supreme Court, but the correct reading of the Constitution will finally be enforced. Lindsey Graham’s bill could do it if Trump’s executive order does not.


18 posted on 10/30/2018 3:00:02 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (So, this is the Third World! What happened to the first two?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Good riddance you jealous, small, inconsequential man. And please, STAY AWAY RYAN!


19 posted on 10/30/2018 3:00:08 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTL)
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...a constitutional guarantee stemming from the 14th Amendment.

I see it! It was hidden in the dark fringe of the penumbra right next to "abortion." I'll be a son of a gun!

20 posted on 10/30/2018 3:00:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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