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Neanderthal-like features in 450,000-year-old fossil teeth from the Italian Peninsula
EurekAlert! ^ | October 3, 2018 | PLOS

Posted on 10/13/2018 4:10:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: gleeaikin

Aren’t shovel incisors an East Asian trait?


21 posted on 10/14/2018 11:37:36 PM PDT by ZULU (Deus Vult!!!!!)
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To: gleeaikin

Interesting.

If you watched Robert’s video the big-ticket takeaway is the “out of Africa” is something I’ve believed most (all?) of my life in that it’s just a bunch of crap.

Pure non-sense that’s a deliberate lie.


22 posted on 10/15/2018 12:40:45 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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I think the main argument for “out of Africa” is that the early hominid fossils much more than a million years old have not been found outside of Africa. If I remember correctly, Homo Habilis is the first hominid fossil found outside of Africa. Also I don’t think that the Heidelburg and Neanderthal types have been found in Africa. Any different info?


23 posted on 10/15/2018 2:17:58 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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My understanding is that Heidelburgensis *has* been found in Europe, Asia and Africa.


24 posted on 10/15/2018 2:47:30 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: gleeaikin
The main argument for "out of Africa" is "Darwin said it, I believe it, that settles it." The family tree is not entirely based on morphology, it is largely based on the "out of Africa" and replacement (master race) biases.

When the mtDNA stuff started to hit about 20 years ago, there was a prof at Stanford who pushed it to beat hell, even pissing off other scientists with stupid remarks such as calling Neandertal a speechless "village idiot" and claiming it was impossible to discuss anything with those coming from the anthropological / morphological approach.

One positive outgrowth has been that Neandertal is now known to be ancestral to a big chunk of humanity, and all the morphological trees are speculative until DNA samples can be recovered from more fossils and analyzed. At that time a lot of heads will roll, figuratively.

25 posted on 10/15/2018 2:49:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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I guess the big question then is the relative age of Heidelburg remains in Europe and Africa. If the African remains are significantly younger, then they could have come from Europe or the Middle East, and don’t forget that the Mediterranean has been dry at times or much smaller.


26 posted on 10/15/2018 10:28:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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It has to do with whether fossils from outside Africa are considered part of the family tree, rather than being an unrelated or extinct line -- that where the "out of Africa" bias comes in. See?

27 posted on 10/15/2018 10:37:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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