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New York City’s Subways Are Slow, Crowded and Smelly—Officials Say Part of the Problem Is You
Wall Street Journal ^ | Sept. 21, 2018 | Paul Berger

Posted on 09/21/2018 6:38:52 PM PDT by firebrand

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To: firebrand
There was a time when the CEO of a Bus transportation company in London stated, “We’d be the best and most efficient transportation company in the country, ......if it weren’t for the damn passengers!”
21 posted on 09/21/2018 7:43:21 PM PDT by HandyDandy (This space intentionally left blank.)
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To: firebrand

Except for a couple of months wasted in college and two years in the Navy, I rode them pretty much daily from 1958 through 1999. From wicker seats, exposed ceiling paddle fans and incandescent bulbs to fiberglass, A/C and flourescents.

Now I live where the word “subway” only means a sandwich shop.

Life is good.


22 posted on 09/21/2018 7:44:50 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Paladin2

I left out the “no”

I have NO issue with anyone not liking to ride mass transit.

It got so bad in HK I started riding a bicycle rather than taking the subway.

So we agree.


23 posted on 09/21/2018 7:47:27 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Fai Mao

Phew...

You had me going for more than a few minutes. ;-)

A few years back we were visiting in SF using a Air B&B for a week. I found the buses along with the App to work well.

We only had to take a couple of grocery bags each a couple of times (and had a ZipCar card to use as needed). It was fine. Not something to live with every day though.


24 posted on 09/21/2018 7:53:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Publius

This is due to the New York riders, not due to the people running the system.


It’s a mix of both. It is, however, much better than it used to be before about 1994.


25 posted on 09/21/2018 8:25:38 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Roccus

Remember the upper handholds that swung back and forth? Because the handholds used to be leather, which they couldn’t keep from swinging, they made the metal ones swing too. To be sure you could still be swung around all over the place every time the train went around a curve.

The stupidest decision of many.

Best subway experience: Track-Vac came by VERY late at night. You could hear it for fifteen minutes before it got there. Getting louder and louder. Then it went by and took all the garbage with it.

Worst: Pushing the door open so someone could get on when the floor was wet and landing on my rear end. Of course no one helped me get up.

Freeper experience: The seats getting all filled up and the freeper men standing so the women getting on could sit down. I don’t think the people in that car ever recovered from it.


26 posted on 09/21/2018 9:11:45 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Of course.

:/

27 posted on 09/21/2018 10:04:14 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: yesthatjallen

Aout the only place in Moscow where Stalin ‘s portrait appears in a government venue.


28 posted on 09/22/2018 1:41:35 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: scrabblehack

The funniest thing about Rocker’s comments was that people analyzed them and realized he really HAD BEEN on those trains - it wasn’t a BS rant, but actually happened.


29 posted on 09/22/2018 5:19:46 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: firebrand

Yup. Leather straps (hence “straphangers”) with metal, porceline handles.

Best...and Worst subway experience was being caught under the East River in the Nov, 1965 blackout. Was in the last car of a packed ‘F’ train and they were only exiting riders from the front half of the front door of the first car. Took forever to get off that train. After walking uphill between the tracks to the 23rd/Ely stop we climed to the platform to find John Q Citizens, just regular folks from the neighborhood, with candles. They would hand them to groups of us riders and ask that we give them to people waiting at the foot of the last stairway to the street. There, folks would then ferry the candles back to the platform.

New York City was a different town in those days....then Republican (spit) John V. Lindsay (spit..spit) became mayor...the rest is history.


30 posted on 09/22/2018 9:49:03 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: kearnyirish2

Rode the 7 train for almost 30 years including the period of Rocker’s statement. He was 100% right!


31 posted on 09/22/2018 9:52:08 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Roccus

I was also caught in a train during a blackout. Yeah, took forever to get out.

Everyone knew instantly that it was something bad, because the train stopped abruptly, not the way it usually does, and the lights went out. Dim emergency lights came on. Some hardy souls went through the storm doors onto the little platform between cars and from there leapt over the barrier onto the catwalk and thus out into Grand Central. In Grand Central there were people sitting all over the floor, leaning against walls if they could find a spot.

When I finally got home, I met one of my roommates coming down the stairs from our apartment in an evening dress on her way to a candlelight ball at the Plaza.


32 posted on 09/22/2018 10:00:07 AM PDT by firebrand
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“-——on her way to a candlelight ball at the Plaza.”

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I must admit that would have been VERY cool !

.


33 posted on 09/22/2018 10:02:03 AM PDT by Mears (')
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To: firebrand

LOL!!

In my neighborhood, if you said, “The Plaza”, people thought you were talking about the movie house or Queens Plaza.


34 posted on 09/22/2018 11:04:15 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Roccus

Ha ha. They never read Eloise?


35 posted on 09/22/2018 11:25:29 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

After my time....besides, I’m a guy.


36 posted on 09/22/2018 11:44:45 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Roccus

Oh, no doubt; I haven’t been on a train there in over a decade (when it was supposed to be better, under Bloomberg) and it was gross.


37 posted on 09/23/2018 5:00:15 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: firebrand

” they made the metal ones swing too. To be sure you could still be swung around all over the place every time the train went around a curve.”

As a kid those were for swinging on!

The surefire away to fix the subways is to make it part of the MTA board AND the Transit Union heads and the mayor’s contracts, that they ALL TAKE THE TRAIN FIVE DAYS / WEEK.

it would be fixed in a month.

I take buses or VIA almost exclusively now. The train is too scary.


38 posted on 09/26/2018 10:46:44 PM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: BTerclinger

I still take it if something has happened to make me late, or if I have to go way downtown to MV or jury duty.

People are so much more polite on the buses. They stand up and give up seats for people with canes and the bus drivers now even wait until people with canes are seated before starting up again. No one ever gives people with canes a seat on the subway.

There’s also a feeling of camaraderie on the bus.

I do hate being dropped off early, though, when they cut the route short. You have to allow at least an extra half hour for all the things that can delay you.


39 posted on 09/26/2018 11:58:30 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Maybe they'll have to switch to these kind of subway cars, so the stinky passengers can be continuously "aired out" (so to speak).


       

40 posted on 09/27/2018 12:14:41 AM PDT by Songcraft
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