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‘The View’ on Kavanaugh: ‘About Time’ Dems ‘Played Hard Ball,’ Conyers Got Canned for Less!
Newsbusters ^ | September 17, 2018 | Curtis Houck

Posted on 09/18/2018 9:09:04 AM PDT by Morgana

Responding Monday morning to the sexual misconduct allegation against Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh with predictable hypocrisy, the liberal ladies on ABC’s The View applauded Democrats for finally “play[ing] hardball,” deemed Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s claims to be “very credible,” and defended Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein (CA) for not going public sooner with the letter.

“Kavanaugh crisis. Will a woman's attempted sexual assault allegation against SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh derail his nomination and put Republicans in a no-win situation,” hyped the show’s announcer in an opening tease.

Co-host Sunny Hostin first declared Ford’s story to be “very credible” and thus made the case against Kavanaugh because “morality and a moral compass is very important when it comes to a lifetime appointee to the Supreme Court” since he’d “be opining a lot of issues that affect women.”

Fellow co-host Joy Behar argued that “maybe he should take a lie detector test” without pointing out how polygraph tests (such as the one Ford took) aren’t admissible in court.

“What's the big rush? There’s still 174,000 papers that we haven't seen on Kavanaugh. You know, plus we have this allegation from a rather credible witness. And so what is the rush? This is a lifetime appointment,” Behar added.

New co-host Abby Hunstman agreed that the case against Kavanaugh is “serious,” but she delineated by stating that she’s “frustrate[d]” by “the politics of all this.” She also linked this to how Republicans didn’t confirm Merrick Garland, which is totally irrelevant.

Huntsman did knock Feinstein for having seemingly “put this in a drawer” until they thought it would have maximum impact. Hostin and co-host Whoopi Goldberg disagreed while Whoopi, without evidence, claimed that “Feinstein didn't say anything about this and we don't know who leaked.”

Whoopi also suggested that perhaps Ford’s husband leaked the story to help his wife’s story get told but, at the end of the day, Feinstein was in a no-win situation when to bring it forward (even though, if the allegations were as serious as Democrats claim, waiting since July to take action is irresponsible).

“I don’t think this is DiFi saying, you know, ‘you know, we’re going to put this away.’ I think this was her saying the woman asked me to keep her confidence and that’s what I'm doing. I think that’s what happened,” she continued.

Hostin informed Huntsman that this isn’t political at all and “the timeline really doesn’t support that the Democrats somehow kept this a secret intentionally to sort of, you know, drop a surprise.” Unless Hostin has her months mixed up, July 30 and the last few days (September 13-17) aren’t exactly next to each other.

Goldberg and Hostin also defended Feinstein for having properly handed the matter off to the FBI, but that’s also irrelevant as the agency has chosen not to investigate it.

It was within this part of the debate that Behar made quite the Freudian slip to Whoopi’s dismay, blurting out how pleased she is with how Democrats have conducted this: “Isn't it about — isn’t it about time the Democrats played hardball, come on.”

After Huntsman seemed to express resignation that Kavanaugh is toast and Goldberg reiterated that Democrats didn’t leak, the segment closed with the four talking past each other and a bizarre Whoopi take about now-former Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) being booted for less (click “expand” for more):

BEHAR: Well, the other thing is that a lot of the students who went to school with this accuser at that high school say that there was this type of thing that went on a lot in those days and that some of them were victims also of this from these other schools. These other — this was a girls school and this — Kavanaugh was in an all boys school and so — and this idea that it was a long time ago, I mean, so when a child is molested or attacked, it was a long time ago too. I mean, a long time ago is not

HUNTSMAN: I can only imagine the conversation that Kavanaugh had to have with his two daughters in going to school today. It’s tough all around. But you know there are a lot of people’s lives on the line.

BEHAR: Clinton had to have the conversation also. It works on both parties.

(....)

GOLDBERG: John Conyers was yanked for a lot less than this. So the conversation needs to be had.

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To see the relevant transcript from ABC’s The View on September 17, click “expand.”

ABC’s The View September 17, 2018 11:00 a.m. Eastern [TEASE]

ANNOUNCER: Kavanaugh crisis. Will a woman's attempted sexual assault allegation against SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh derail his nomination and put Republicans in a no-win situation?

(....)

11:02 a.m. Eastern

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: So the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of trying to sexually assault her in high school says she’s willing to talk to Congress. Now, Kavanaugh says it's a false allegation. He'll go before the Senate Judiciary Committee to clear his name. Clearly, we've seen over the last couple of years with Senators and congressmen, can this hurt him?

SUNNY HOSTIN: Well, I don't know if it's going to him because he certainly has a lot of the votes right now, but at the very least, she must be heard. At the very least, she has to testify, I think, and tell her side of the story. When you look at sort of the series of events and her allegations, I find them to be very credible. I find them to be extremely important, and let's face it. This is a lifetime appointment and I think that morality and a moral compass is very important when it comes to a lifetime appointee to the Supreme Court. He is going to be opining a lot of issues that affect women and we need to hear from her.

JOY BEHAR: She also too a lie detector test. Maybe he should take a lie detector test. At least, we'll see, you know, something that. [APPLAUSE]

HOSTIN: Clarence Thomas did not take a lie detector test.

BEHAR: No, Clarence Thomas — Anita Hill took a lie detector test.

HOSTIN: And she has taken one also and —

BEHAR: That's what I just said.

HOSTIN: Yeah. And it’s —

ABBY HUNTSMAN: And he still got the votes to get through.

BEHAR: Well, except that there's rumbling now from Flake, Corker, Murkowski, and Collins that this should not be rushed through. What's the big rush? There’s still 174,000 papers that we haven't seen on Kavanaugh.

HUNTSMAN: Yeah.

BEHAR: You know, plus we have this allegation from a rather credible witness. And so what is the rush? This is a lifetime appointment. They're afraid that if we wait until after the mid-terms and you have a Democratic congress in the majority, that they will never put him through. They're like, this is our last chance to really stack the court with a conservative judge -- judges, most of them.

HUNTSMAN: Well, this is a serious allegation from this woman. We live in a different time where if you're a Republican Senator, you can’t say well, no, we have to vote we can't hear her side of the story. Democrats knew that. One thing I love about this country is we're transparent. We don't hide from things when they come to the surface. Usually, the truth will win in the end.

BEHAR: Thanks to the press.

HUNTSMAN: Well, we should let the process out and we should hear from both sides and right now we're hearing two completely different stories. What frustrates me though is the politics of all this. It doesn't take away from what this woman is clearly, you know, I think, I feel for her in this moment because she's obviously kept this with her if this is all true, for almost 37 years now, but I hate the politics. Going back to Merrick Garland and what Republicans did in that moment.

BEHAR: Right.

HUNTSMAN: Dianne Feinstein had this letter where this woman anonymously details what she went through. It seems as if the Democrats put this in a drawer and said this is big and this is going to benefit us if we use the time perfectly. If we put this out —

GOLDBERG: You do know that she asked — she asked Dianne Feinstein to keep it private.

HOSTIN: Confidential.

GOLDBERG: Confidential.

HUNTSMAN: She could have still done that though.

GOLDBERG: And she did and Dianne Feinstein didn't say anything about this and we don't know who leaked. There's some conversation that perhaps the young woman’s husband, in a way to get his wife's story out there, because people weren't talking about it. Maybe he put it out there. But the bottom line really is, you know, the Democrats could — could win with this one. If they brought it out in July, people would have said, oh, you're bringing it out to hurt him because he's a fan of the president. If they had waited and not done it now, people were saying, oh you're doing it because it's political. I don't think they could have won here. I don't think that — I don’t think this is DiFi saying, you know, “you know, we’re going to put this away.” I think this was her saying the woman asked me to keep her confidence and that’s what I'm doing.

HOSTIN: I — I agree with that.

GOLDBERG: I think that’s what happened.

HUNTSMAN: I'm telling you the way that I've taken it, the way that I feel and everyone can respond their own way to this. It does feel political to me and I think it’s what a lot of people hate about politics.

HOSTIN: The evidence doesn’t support that.

BEHAR: Isn't it about — isn’t it about time the Democrats played hard ball, come on.

GOLDBERG: But this isn’t — but this is not hard ball.

HUNTSMAN: But that’s no —

BEHAR: Let's say they did.

HOSTIN: But the timeline really doesn’t support that the Democrats somehow kept this a secret intentionally to sort of, you know, drop a surprise. If you look at the timeline, it looks like in she told her story to her husband in couples therapy. There are therapist’s notes that confirm it. She contacted The Post in July through a tipline once she found out that Kavanaugh had reached a short list of nominees. Then, she contacted her congresswoman in California, Senator Feinstein is the senator in California.

GOLDBERG: Also, Anna Eshoo.

HOSTIN: Exactly in late July. Then she hired an attorney who said, you know, going to be really challenged on this. That's when she took the lie detector test. And then —

HUNTSMAN: She clearly wanted somebody to know, even anonymously what she had —

HOSTIN: But she didn't want her name.

HUNTSMAN: She didn’t want her name there, but she wanted people to know anonymously, so that’s why I say, if you’re a Democrat and you get this letter, if you're meeting — like, Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer, who will be on the show and we can ask them these questions, today. But you’re one-on-one with Kavanaugh and you have this letter and you know what this woman wrote you, why not use that as an opportunity to say, I can’t say her name.

HOSTIN: She took it to the FBI, though.

GOLDBERG: She said — yes.

HOSTIN: She did take it to the FBI and that's what you do.

HUNTSMAN: I just — I find the timing very political. It doesn't excuse this woman coming out. We need to hear it and obviously people can make that judgment but I think — I think I speak for a lot of people where it's frustrating that it came out when it did.

GOLDBERG: But what should they have done? Should they — if they had come out in July and said we have this information, we've gotten this letter and we don't think he should be there, people would have said, you just brought that out because he's — he’s — he’s our Republican nominee and you don't like his politics.

HOSTIN: And as long as he wasn't the nominee.

HUNTSMAN: But Democrats now know if you bring it out the week before they're going to have a vote, Republicans have no choice

GOLDBERG: But they didn’t do that.

HUNTSMAN: — and now they're not going to have another nominee until after the midterms.

GOLDBERG: But they didn't do that. But I'm sorry, but this all went down because whatever this magazine is —

HOSTIN: The Intercept.

GOLDBERG: The Intercept made a decision to release that. Dianne Feinstein didn't release that.

HOSTIN: She sent it to the FBI.

GOLDBERG: She sent it to — which is what you’re supposed to do.

HOSTIN: — which does the background — which does the background work on —

GOLDBERG: But they didn’t release it. The Democrats didn't release it and I believe they didn’t release it because they knew they were in a now win situation because if you had done it in July, you done it now.

HUNTSMAN: But doesn’t that seem alarming though?

GOLDBERG: Just — yes. Wait, wait, she has to read the thing.

HOSTIN: We want to make it clear that Kavanaugh has said: “This is a completely false allegation. I have never done anything like what the accuser describes to her or to anyone. I am willing to talk to the Senate Judiciary Committee in any way the committee deems appropriate to refute this false allegation from 36 years ago and defend my integrity.” Maybe that’s what we’ll see.

BEHAR: Well, the other thing is that a lot of the students who went to school with this accuser at that high school say that there was this type of thing that went on a lot in those days and that some of them were victims also of this from these other schools. These other — this was a girls school and this — Kavanaugh was in an all boys school and so — and this idea that it was a long time ago, I mean, so when a child is molested or attacked, it was a long time ago too. I mean, a long time ago is not

HUNTSMAN: I can only imagine the conversation that Kavanaugh had to have with his two daughters in going to school today. It’s tough all around. But you know there are a lot of people’s lives on the line.

BEHAR: Clinton had to have the conversation also. It works on both parties.

HUNTSMAN: Yeah.

GOLDBERG: And, you know, if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.

BEHAR: That's right. They call these politicians — right.

GOLDBERG: John Conyers was yanked for a lot less than this.

HOSTIN: Yeah.

BEHAR: Well, now —

GOLDBERG: So the conversation needs to be had.

****VIDEO ON LINK*****


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1 posted on 09/18/2018 9:09:05 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

I really don’t want to know what Conyers did when he was 17. And NO, this can’t be compared to serial creepiness from Conyers in recent years.


2 posted on 09/18/2018 9:11:20 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Morgana

Conyers had an accuser who was willing to go on-record about offenses which actually occurred in this millennium.


3 posted on 09/18/2018 9:11:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Morgana

Inarticulate, stupid, panicked activists who know that the wind is blowing against them.


4 posted on 09/18/2018 9:12:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: Morgana

But ‘The View’ loved them some Bill Clinton, a sexual predator and rapist.


5 posted on 09/18/2018 9:15:16 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Morgana

keith ellison says hello.....


6 posted on 09/18/2018 9:19:32 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Morgana

Why do we ever go to “The View” for any meaningful content? Only nuttiness and far left-wing bias. Why even bother?

The thing about the Kavanaugh allegation is about extending the confirmation vote at long as democrats can, and they hope until after the November elections, where they hope to have more power to help overcome Kavanaugh and the president.

They’ve already extended the Kavanaugh vote another 2 weeks, and no doubt, they’ll find something else after the Monday hearings, or will claim that the hearings are not being conducted fairly and will ask for more time to delay the vote. So, even though the allegation will amount to nothing, democrats will have gotten what they sought, and that’s more and more delays. Confirmation for Kavanaugh will eventually happen, maybe. But not until after the elections.

Democrats have gone full-blown radical on Kavanaugh with their tactics. They’re going to terrorize Kavanaugh and his family until either he or his wife decide that they can’t put their kids and family through the charade and the demonization and shock that the family is going through. It’s about forcing Kavanaugh to quit, for the good of the kids and family.


7 posted on 09/18/2018 9:21:21 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Morgana

“morality and a moral compass is very important when it comes to a lifetime appointee to the Supreme Court”

For once I agree with a ViewShrew.

Conversely, a lack of morality and lack of a moral compass are very important! This chick unwittingly admitted that Kavanaugh SHOULD be confirmed, as opposed to lesser Justices who have given us (and defended) Roe v Wade!


8 posted on 09/18/2018 9:23:03 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: Morgana

They’re about to get hit in the balls with a line drive when they realize they are not only denying him a Supreme Court seat, they have to remove him from the D.C. Appeals Court. I think this is a good time to stock up on lots of popcorn.


9 posted on 09/18/2018 9:28:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: adorno

I watch snippets of the view on youtube for the same reason I rubber neck when driving past an accident.

And I rarely get more than a couple of minutes into them before the “stupid” wears on me and I turn them off.


10 posted on 09/18/2018 9:33:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Morgana
There are moments that make the breach between sides widen severely. It might seem like things continue more or less normally but under the surface, things are different and theres no going back. Enough of these pile up and it's too much to keep things together.

In 1854 congress passed the Kansas-Nebraska act which allowed Kansas to decide on their own if they wanted to be a slave state. Some people didn't like that because it violated a prior compromise that new states would not allow slavery. But hey, that's the law. But some people really didn't like it and hard core abolitionist John Brown went to Kansas to rabble rouse for abolition in 1855. Violence followed. Now it was really getting everyone inflamed. Within a year it had bubbled up to congress with republican Charles Sumner being beaten with a cane on the floor of the house by a slave loving democrat. Five years later, war.

Today they open an investigation and take a few scalps for things unrelated to Trump. Most people yawn. Then they take down a SCOTUS nominee for what everyone can see is nakedly partisan BS reasons. People either frown or cheer. Then they win congress and move to impeach. No going back after that one.

The dems are making it clear, they want a totalitarian state where they use the power of the state and the media to crush all dissent. Elections are to be circumvented, laws to be ignored or used to persecute political enemies. If their current slate of hardcore leftists get in, they won't even pretend to respect the rule of law or the American way. The differences between us are becoming too great to resolve it seems.

11 posted on 09/18/2018 9:36:52 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: heterosupremacist

“....“morality and a moral compass is very important when it comes to a lifetime appointee to the Supreme Court”...”

Yeah. Too bad it doesn’t also apply to the MSM, and particularly to The View”.


12 posted on 09/18/2018 9:59:24 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: All

13 posted on 09/18/2018 10:22:14 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Morgana

Listening to the details of the allegations, I wonder if GOLDBERG would use her terminology that she loves to say in public, ‘its not rape-rape’.


14 posted on 09/18/2018 10:30:26 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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