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To: jjotto
SES is pretty much just a pay scale for top bureaucrats and appointees like GS is for most Fed employees. All Cabinet members are SES. Bloggers who didn’t know it was there started making up stuff about it when they discovered SES.

I think that is what happened. Now, it has a life of its own. Just my opinion, but discussing "SES" as some sort of automatic Deep State entity helps to de-legitimize the movement. All it takes is from some MSM reporter to bring up the topic, point out that many of Trump's own appointments and White House hires hold that Federal civilian rank, and we lose credibility.

Not trying to start an argument or fight or anything. I had enough of that last week.

954 posted on 08/13/2018 5:44:11 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
Not trying to start an argument or fight or anything. I had enough of that last week.

There was a post / discussion awhile back about a "keystone" and the symbol looked a lot like the logo for the SES. This may be where the alarm over SES originated; together with discussion of Obama having appointed many at the last minute, and how difficult they are for an incoming Prez to dislodge.

(See, no flames. /tips hat>)

1,029 posted on 08/13/2018 8:06:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SkyPilot; All

I think the issue with it is that Obama added about 6-8K people to it specifically due to the difficulty of removing them and the power the added people had at the non elected bureaucratic level.


1,172 posted on 08/14/2018 6:21:47 AM PDT by Axenolith (This space for rent)
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To: SkyPilot

You make good points. And thanks for explaining SES. I am probably not tge only one who was under the impression that SES was a creation of the Obama Infestation.

It appears that, under Obama, the ranks of the SES were greatly expanded to keep Deepies firmly entrenched in the federal government.


1,182 posted on 08/14/2018 6:44:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The USA news industry, the MSM-13, takes a machete to the truth. {h/t TigersEye})
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To: SkyPilot

PS: Perhaps it would be helpful if you were to offer an addendum to “SES” in Swordmaker’s LexiQon.


1,187 posted on 08/14/2018 6:50:06 AM PDT by Bigg Red (The USA news industry, the MSM-13, takes a machete to the truth. {h/t TigersEye})
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To: SkyPilot; jjotto

“SES is pretty much just a pay scale ...”

kind of, and it should be, but...

we beat the SES question to death a few whiles ago on one of these “Q” threads.

Interesting document here.

https://aim4truth.org/2018/01/03/deep-state-shadow-government-revealed-senior-executive-service/

“The Senior Executive Service (SES) in 2016 had 8,156 members who were appointees. Obama appointed over 7,000 of them to these key positions”


1,320 posted on 08/14/2018 11:06:00 AM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.Of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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