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To: ShadowAce

In the future, all of the appliances are going to go back to being dumb.
‘Cuz smart appliances are nothing but a security risk for your home network - or are at risk from your home network.
Smart homes are a dumb idea.


15 posted on 06/04/2018 10:27:10 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray
Smart homes are a dumb idea.

I agree. I refuse to put those things in my house, or purchase a house with those features.

I do OS/IT support for a living. I don't want to come home to do the same things.

18 posted on 06/04/2018 10:28:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Little Ray
I want a microwave with a twist timer and a start button. Maybe a power selector.

Does a microwave really need more controls than a Piper Cub???

25 posted on 06/04/2018 10:32:44 AM PDT by null and void (Have the courage to shine the light of reason in a dark world)
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To: Little Ray

Yep. Smart appliances have been used in some mass attacks on ISPs.


31 posted on 06/04/2018 10:40:21 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Little Ray

Smart homes are a dumb idea.

So are smart cars/trucks.

The only so called smart device in our home is a Nest thermostat that controls the heating/AC for the part of our home where we spend 98% of our time. A standard thermostat controls the heating/AC in the rest of the home. Since installing the Nest (four years ago), we consistently use less electricity/natural gas than similar sized an so called economical homes in our area.

My wife’s Lexus is 14 years, runs great and starts when we need it. I have the first Honda Ridge Line, and it starts when we need it. Like my wife’s Lexus, it has minimal computer trash to go wrong.

Why is starting when you need it important?

A lot of the vehicles today with all the computer gear on board often do not start.

Saturday, we were at a house warming party for friends. Women with newer vehicles at all price ranges were complaining about how often their new vehicles never start.

Many of their husbands with new $50K+ pickups have the same problem. Two contractors got their new in 2017 pickups declared lemons for not starting and other electronic problems.

Many of the new car owners told my wife to never get rid of her Lexus, and if she did, to let them know, so they could buy it.


43 posted on 06/04/2018 11:02:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump does what is good for Americans. Then, the world gets their pants in a knot, too bad!)
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To: Little Ray; ShadowAce

Smart homes are a dumb idea.

Those of us who live in the country, and I mean no high-speed internet (unless I pay for expensive, rate limited and slow satellite internet), smart homes don’t work.


62 posted on 06/04/2018 2:06:00 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Little Ray
Smart homes are a dumb idea.

A really dumb idea.

"Hey, let's take a crapload of devices that control every aspect of your home including ingress and egress, and hook them up to the internet, and then never update them for security vulnerabilities."

Your home router isn't safe. What the heck makes you think anything behind it is? I'm just about to the point that I think there should be liability for internet companies that provide routers that are hopelessly obsolete and riddled with security holes two weeks after they are installed, yet never get updated. I bought my own openWRT router to put behind the stupid 'cable modem' that was provided. I've kept it as locked down as I can, but it's a losing battle. I can't even imagine having all those 'smart' devices (that really aren't smart at all) attached to it.

Now, I could see doing some of that on a non-internet connected dedicated network, but why the hell do I need my thermostat accessible via the internet?

77 posted on 06/04/2018 8:54:55 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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