Posted on 05/21/2018 7:34:29 AM PDT by Leaning Right
Permit me to start by making two points. One, the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun. And two, in liberal cities teachers will never be allowed access to guns. Never.
Is there any way to square these two conflicting points? My suggestion: At a minimum, allow teachers access to hot-round bean bag shotguns. Yes, I know that would, in a way, be like bringing a knife to a gun fight. But it sure would be better than the current "shelter in place" policy.
Stop the war on boys.
You are laboring under the delusion that the Left wants to prevent mass shootings.
They do not.
They need school shootings for purposes of demagoguery.
I think public schools need to be re-designed. Too many of them have side doors that can only be opened with a key card from the outside but can be opened by anyone from the inside, which is what happened in Santa Fe. Either eliminate the side doors altogether or make them so they can only be opened with a key card from both the inside and outside.
> Either eliminate the side doors altogether or make them so they can only be opened with a key card from both the inside and outside. <
The fire marshal would never allow that. And then there are the windows. I taught for many years in an urban high school. Suppose Student A wants to smuggle drugs or booze into the school. So here’s what he does. He gives the contraband to a friend, Student B. Student A then breezes through security at the front door.
Student A then opens a window somewhere else in the building (maybe in a rest room). Student B throws the contraband through the window.
That happened many times at my school.
But, emergency evacuation would be greatly compromised. Interior doors must be able to open independent of any locking system.
Possibly some sort of secondary door, outside the building in a fenced in area could be developed. Say the building door is alarmed and the exterior gate can be monitored by video so that way, the alarm sounds, security guards watch the video to see the gate and make sure whoever triggered the alarm is not allowing ingress to someone.
That whole thing could be done for a few thousand dollars a door.
Lemme help you out here:
H.O.M.E.S.C.H.O.O.L.
And by the way, public schools do quite a bit of damage to the kids’ minds and spirit than a firearm ever could. Common Core curriculum, flaming feminazi teachers and administrators, anti-boy and anti-American indoctrination centers, et cetera, et cetera...
On top of a colossal wast of taxpayer dollars.
Schools need to be run like prisons. There is a certain percentage of violent psychos in prisons and in today’s schools. They need scores of guards and monitors and metal detectors to protect the students from themselves.
” They need scores of guards and monitors and metal detectors to protect the students from themselves.”
But what about fire alarms?
When mine were in HS false alarms were a problem for a time——that was 2500 kids pouring out of the building.
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> Possibly some sort of secondary door, outside the building in a fenced in area could be developed. <
That is a very good idea. And unlike the building doors, these secondary doors would be out in the open, and so could easily be monitored.
Ban stupid parents and school administrators.
That was covered in the "run the schools like prisons" part. Inmates will not allowed to touch the fire alarms if they want to stay out solitary.
Thanks-—I had not seen that.
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The most important “FORCE” in teen-age high school is PEER PRESSURE ... nobody is tapping into this force. That “jerk” who “speaks for the kids” at Parkland? Hey ... it wasn’t a 35 year old red neck with guns that killed your PEERS ... it was one of YOUR PEERS buddy ... what are YOU going to do to solve the problem. Who is the closest to the problem? “Me” out here or YOU with the perp beside you at the next desk? ... “WE” out here aren’t shooting up your high school, YOUR PEERS are doing it. So FIX IT!
> There is a certain percentage of violent psychos in prisons and in today’s schools. <
I taught for decades in a large urban school district. And I gotta say, there’s lots of truth in your comment there.
About 10 years ago my district actually tried to do something about it. An alternative school was set up. Only the most violent students were sent there. Class size was small, and individual counseling was provided. Security was tight, but not oppressive.
Well, parents of those kids hired lawyers. There were lawsuits all over the place. “How dare you send my son away from his neighborhood school!”
So yep, the whole project got cancelled.
YEP....distributive education....I think the more shootings continue, the less confidence in Public Schools there will be...With the Internet it is not all that hard, if a parent is committed.
Right.
And not only that, but every teacher’s strike, every property tax increase, every time some new perversion comes to light - more and more parents are realizing that public schools are a serious liability to them, their children, and the community at large.
Incidentally, the parents themselves don’t always have to be there or do the teaching. Friends/relatives can help, or some subjects can be hired as tutors to help as well. There are also usually other homeschoolers within striking distance to combine resources to learn, socialize and play sports, etc.
How about we all pull our kids out of public school for fear for the safety of our children? How about we finally rise up against this industrial-scale criminal negligence and force our government to make our schools safer by eliminating gun-free zones?
But that has nothing to do with preventing school shootings.
The gangbangers at the old school had a lot of extracurricular activities, but peer pressure kept anything seriously violent off of the school grounds.
It just "wasn't done" in the school. And that peer pressure was more effective than the security staff. Of course it helped that transgressors were promptly and permanently expelled, if not jailed.
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