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Karl Marx a tool to 'win the future' for China, Xi Jinping says
Deutsche Welle ^ | 05.04.2018 | ng/msh (AP, Reuters, dpa)

Posted on 05/05/2018 10:32:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: x

Ha, images like that coming to a University near you! :-). Also, don’t think for one second that this couldn’t happen again over there, and in a heartbeat.


21 posted on 05/05/2018 12:57:24 PM PDT by hulagirl (High Horse Drifter)
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To: x

What I mean to say is, we are awfully close to our own Cultural Revolution


22 posted on 05/05/2018 12:58:23 PM PDT by hulagirl (High Horse Drifter)
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To: cradle of freedom

“The globalists empowered China and now China is kicking them in the butt.”

Richard Nixon empowered China. I never cared much about Watergate, but befriending history’s greatest murderer and invigorating Communist China is unforgivable. If one were to believe the official two-party narrative, it would be amazing how both Democrats and Republicans have remained consistent in their support of the utopian mantra that freedom will spontaneously erupt if you give a bloody, communist regime enough economic support.

While some may argue cognitive dissonance, the operative word is corruption. Washington has made slaves of two countries as it bathes in the blood of Mao’s victims.


23 posted on 05/05/2018 1:08:26 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: chuckee

State capitalism is actually in the Communist Manifesto. What Red China is doing is no different from Lenin’s New Economic Policy.

Even Engels wrote in “The Principles of Communism” that “(i)t will be impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once”, referring to the ten planks.


24 posted on 05/05/2018 1:50:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Rurudyne
Proper Adam Smith enconomics

Um, no.

Marx was a Free Trader big time.

"But, generally speaking, the Protective system in these days is conservative, while the Free Trade system works destructively. It breaks up old nationalities and carries antagonism of proletariat and bourgeoisie to the uttermost point. In a word, the Free Trade system hastens the Social Revolution. In this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, I am in favor of Free Trade."

-- Karl Marx.

When you push Smithian economics and Free Trade you are pushing for Marxism.

25 posted on 05/05/2018 2:02:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Oh please!

To say Smith and Marx are alike because they weren’t opposed in everything is like saying Christians and Muslims are alike because they both teach that homosexuality is sin.

Smith was right precisely because he was interested in what may make men as individuals (and also their countries) wealthy.

Marx was wrong because he wanted what would make men classless.


26 posted on 05/05/2018 2:12:09 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Adam Smith never envisioned multi national corporations closing factories in England and moving production to the third world to exploit cheap labor and then re importing the same product back into England duty free! Smith would have been hung for suggesting that. That is not Free Trade. That is screw trade.


27 posted on 05/05/2018 2:22:04 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Olog-hai

Worth noting that Mussolini started off as a socialist and in fact was editor of a socialist newspaper. At the end of his life he said he had always been a socialist at heart.


28 posted on 05/05/2018 2:22:15 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
When the war is over, in the world's social revolution that will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth's riches, due account must be kept of the sacrifices and of the discipline maintained by the Italian workers. The Fascist revolution will make another decisive step to shorten social distances.
That quote is from 1941; it does show that Mussolini was a socialist the whole time while claiming to be its enemy.
29 posted on 05/05/2018 2:32:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: central_va

Smith’s analysis was always rooted in the long term, in what promoted the wealth a nation and its people (not all nations or all peoples, none of that guff), and not in the short term. Profits and concentration of wealth and power without broad wealth creation are a feature of Morgan’s and his ilk’s ideas. They (the likes of Morgan) engaged in opposite errors to the errors that George promulgated. Do you blame Smith for the abuses others created that he arguably would have opposed?

Even Morgan, as bad as he was, understood that wealth has some measure of localism (NOT Georgian localism, which is pure ideological crap of the Socialist strain, but rather merely that wealth represents capacity to make, to produce, and to do it yourselves ... and not just to consume what others make), he just wanted everything made under his control ... but should we expect anything better from any mere banker? They’re as bad as lawyers.


30 posted on 05/05/2018 2:50:52 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

The economic libertarian and false prophet Smith, was a Utopian a$$.


31 posted on 05/05/2018 2:52:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

Try Ludwig von Mises instead of Karl Marx. Try the Founding Fathers instead of the Frankfurt School.


32 posted on 05/05/2018 4:27:55 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Rurudyne

It was established from the Venona intercepts that the USSR was financing the Left. My guess is that it’s the ChiComs who took over paying the bills.


33 posted on 05/05/2018 4:38:08 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

They certainly were funding the Clintons! I bet you could count on one hand Progressives you know who know who Charlie Trie was or why Gore had opportunity to crow about no controlling authority. It’s sometimes hard to find conservatives who do!

Not too many months ago I was taken to task by a self proclaimed conservative who didn’t know what I was referencing when I posted “I don’t know about you, but when I discover a close friend has committed suicide my first reaction is to rifle through his office, remove any documents that may incriminate me and physically destroy his computer.”

The guy thought I might actually respond like that rather than realize I was pointing out how utterly despicable the Clintons are. I doubt he’d even know what Clinton Tears are and how they were observed at Ron Brown’s funeral.

Naturally the Leftist on that forum were right there expressing what a horrible person I was even if they perfectly understood what I’d meant.

And of course even THAT sarcastic post assumes nothing about the Clintons obstructing justice by moving Foster’s body, never mind the off chance he was Arkancided.


34 posted on 05/05/2018 9:51:03 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
he returned to Cambodia and slaughtered a quarter of its population

Mostly the smarter quarter.

35 posted on 05/06/2018 1:48:46 AM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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To: huckfillary
The Founding Fathers WERE ALL PROTECTIONISTS, none of them held the Smith's view of economics.
36 posted on 05/06/2018 4:16:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Olog-hai

Almost like he saw fascism as a necessary step towards socialism.

Here’s a great piece on Mussolini and the whole fascism vs. socialism thing:

http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm

This is where I read that Mussolini started as a socialist. I had forgotten that he was actually the head of the Italian Socialist party for a few years in the 1910’s.


37 posted on 05/06/2018 7:44:11 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

That’s not out of line with the Manifesto, which said that the “[revolutionary] measures will of course be different in different countries”. Any means to achieve the one end.


38 posted on 05/06/2018 7:54:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: antidisestablishment

We have been ruled by sell outs for generations.


39 posted on 05/06/2018 7:24:35 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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