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If you are of the belief that a Bill of Rights exists for the expansion of government, please press the reply button and say so. Even if you do not feel like explaining your opinion.
1 posted on 04/04/2018 5:20:52 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: nicollo; Kalam; IYAS9YAS; laplata; mvonfr; Southside_Chicago_Republican; celmak; SvenMagnussen; ...
All 50 states have a Constitution with a Bill of Rights.(+1 Federal)

That's 51 Bills of Rights - why do they exist? To make government bigger or to make government smaller?

2 posted on 04/04/2018 5:22:20 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

A Bill Of Rights exists in order to fool people into thinking a piece of paper can limit a monopoly provider of justice and security.


3 posted on 04/04/2018 5:24:26 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: ProgressingAmerica

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4 posted on 04/04/2018 5:27:17 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: ProgressingAmerica

It’s not just the Bill of Rights. The entire Constitution was constructed so as to limit the power of the government.


6 posted on 04/04/2018 5:29:07 PM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The 9th and 10th Amendments are perfectly clear.

No debate necessary.

Except for the liberal courts that only apply them to desrtoy the USA.


9 posted on 04/04/2018 5:38:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

>If you are of the belief that a Bill of Rights exists for the expansion of government...

James Madison, the Father of our Constitution, clarified the authority of the federal government in the Federalist Papers #45:

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are ***few and defined.*** Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

Madison was against the Bill of Rights at first since the powers of the Federal gov’t were “few and defined”. He (and others) thought that naming only **certain*** rights in a Bill, would allow other rights not enumerated to be considered ‘secondary’ and not protected.

Madison changed his mind from ‘counsel’ by Jefferson that without the Bill of Rights (or a promise of them) no Constitution would be passed by the States.

So.... the Bill of Rights existed in order to persuade States to put the Constitution into existence.


10 posted on 04/04/2018 5:39:39 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Constitution has two parts:

Part 1: The powers granted to the Federal government by the sovereign entities (the States and the People). This is the portion the Fed Gov MUST do.

Part 2: The Bill of Rights is the opposite. It is a statement of rights the Fed Gov may not touch. This is the portion over which the Fed Gov has no authority. Did we miss something? Read the 9th and 10th... they still belong to us.


11 posted on 04/04/2018 5:42:27 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
What is the purpose of a bill of rights anyways? To expand government? Or to limit it?

If you have to ask that question you were educated in a government school.

Home school!

12 posted on 04/04/2018 5:51:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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Mr. Patrick HENRY. Mr. Chairman, the necessity of a bill of rights appears to me to be greater in this government than ever it was in any government before.
... Let us consider the sentiments which have been entertained by the people of America on this subject. At the revolution, it must be admitted that it was their sense to set down those great rights which ought, in all countries, to be held inviolable and sacred. Virginia did so, we all remember. She made a compact to reserve, expressly, certain rights.

When fortified with full, adequate, and abundant representation, was she satisfied with that representation? No. She most cautiously and guardedly reserved and secured those invaluable, inestimable rights and privileges, which no people, inspired with the least glow of patriotic liberty, ever did, or ever can, abandon.
She is called upon now to abandon them, and dissolve that compact which secured them to her. She is called upon to accede to another compact, which most infallibly supersedes and annihilates her present one. Will she do it? This is the question. If you intend to reserve your unalienable rights, you must have the most express stipulation; for, if implication be allowed, you are ousted of those rights. If the people do not think it necessary to reserve them, they will be supposed to be given up...

Virginia Ratification Convention ^ | June 16, 1788 |


17 posted on 04/04/2018 9:12:17 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Obama thinks the Constitution should be a list of “negative” Rights. Those being what the Government does “for” the People.

Of course, anyone with a brain in their head knows “for” is just a euphemism for “to”.

18 posted on 04/04/2018 9:19:07 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
What is the purpose of a bill of rights anyways?

The preamble to the Bill of Rights explains the purpose.

"The Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution expressed a desire in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.”

Does not "declaratory and restrictive" make the intentions of the Bill of Rights clear?

19 posted on 04/05/2018 5:38:43 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

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22 posted on 04/05/2018 12:28:42 PM PDT by Dacula
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