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To: SeekAndFind
Imagine you're looking at a $2 million nest egg. If we apply a fairly conservative 2% annual withdrawal rate, you'd start out with $40,000 of income.

Am I missing something here?

Why assume a "withdrawal rate?" What about investing the $2 million in a diversified portfolio that earns, say, 4% annually? Won't that give you $80,000 without withdrawing any principle at all?

-PJ

8 posted on 03/28/2018 7:08:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

>>Why assume a “withdrawal rate?” What about investing the $2 million in a diversified portfolio that earns, say, 4% annually? Won’t that give you $80,000 without withdrawing any principle at all?<<

That is the theory but planning is to draw it down and assume no return. For TSA-type investments you have to take withdrawals anyway.


13 posted on 03/28/2018 7:12:58 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: Political Junkie Too

RE: What about investing the $2 million in a diversified portfolio that earns, say, 4% annually? Won’t that give you $80,000 without withdrawing any principle at all?

As long as you are not going to lose sleep over the huge swings and the ups and downs of the markets ( e.g. the downs of the mortgage crisis ), then have at it.

Most retirees do not have the stomach for this and would prefer steady, predictable income.


14 posted on 03/28/2018 7:13:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Political Junkie Too

“Why assume a “withdrawal rate?” What about investing the $2 million in a diversified portfolio that earns, say, 4% annually? Won’t that give you $80,000 without withdrawing any principle at all?”

Lots of articles on the 4% strategy. This strategy does assume a historical rate of return. The idea is to maximize the amount of revenue to spend in retirement and that requires spending down the portfolio. Lot’s of assumptions built into the 4%. It’s probably the most common strategy advanced by retirement planners.

The 4% strategy is based upon simulations of the expected return and upon a 90% probability of not outliving your portfolio. It’s a very conservative strategy.


37 posted on 03/28/2018 7:53:57 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Political Junkie Too
Why assume a "withdrawal rate?" What about investing the $2 million in a diversified portfolio that earns, say, 4% annually? Won't that give you $80,000 without withdrawing any principle at all? -PJ

You get taxed on that 80k unless its in tax free investments.

Just buy tax free muni bonds after moving/retiring to a state income tax free state (TX, FL, NV, etc). Buy 2mm in tax free AA rated bonds with insurance and you'll get 80k a year at 4%. After the bonds are called/matured, you get your 2mm back to reinvest. Nice if you are retiring now because interest rates are going up. You can get 5% if you go out longer near par. That's 100k a year TAX FREE!

73 posted on 03/28/2018 10:33:25 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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