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To: Cboldt
I'll bet at least 80% of the appropriated funds were spent exactly as appropriated. That can't happen if he ignores the appropriations laws.

I can't believe the naysayers outside and now even here coming out of the woodwork on this one - as you consider, for a $1.3 trillion package that's $260 BILLION in "working" capital. As they say, even in DC terms, that's real money lol.

Let's remember Trump is a builder. He builds things. Big things. The WALL will inevitably be the biggest + most complicated thing he's ever done but it's still a construction project. Trump clearly knows how to plan such things and play the long game. The cost estimates for the wall vary but Trump has projected $8 billion.

Construction projects are conducted in orderly stages - you can't - even if fully funded - just roll up to the border and put up the wall next week. The first stage(s) would rightly + most effectively be handled by the US Army Corps of Engineers as "Q" post yesterday is seemingly suggesting (Red Castle logo, HQ in Greencastle, IN). In such a course, they will be surveying and prepping the ground (literally).

So ... Trump now has 20% of the overall projected costs largely funded in this spending bill. WITHOUT the potential DACA / WALL deal that many expect is the long term path forward. That is currently mired in legal actions and as long as DACA remains in such quagmire the DEM's have no reason to budge on the WALL while their compadres in the Courts will continually + perpetually block things - but Trump is learning how to navigate these obstacles as well as can be given the standing conditions - Exhibit 1: Keystone XL Pipeline. Exhibit 2: strict vetting on visas. Both of those initiatives are proceeding forward while continually plagued with dubious legal opinions being sought via pesky litigants and rogue judges.

SO ... if Trump vetoed the legislation ... what would happen on Monday? NADA. Where would the remnants of sequester for military spending stand? UGGH. Meanwhile, Trump (with Mulvaney) has proven himself quite agile & disciplined when it comes to spending - in his first year of deficit spending he actually lowered the national debt. I have no doubt that Trump will be successful in effectively managing this OMNIBUS. He can choose to not fully fund things and slow walk others and even use some provisions he doesn't like as leverage to get appointees confirmed. And certainly PP faces more dire circumstances from the continuing and ongoing investigations and potential prosecution possibly arising than is possibly or likely that Trump would eagerly throw more & more $$$ to them.

I certainly don't believe that Trump will build the (entire) wall with the $1.6 billion outlay(s) given or other means within the broader availability. But he can certainly pile a significant amount of direct, indirect and tangential costs under the umbrella of funding designated for the military & US Army Corps of Engineers. There is no shortage of working capital. At the end of this (6-9+ month) period he'll likely have a LOT of that $260 BILLION left and use to payoff the debt or any number of things - unlike Obama would use to "redistribute" and for their crony slush funds.

I don't like the OMNIBUS measure but it's probably the best that could be negotiated given the landscape as it exists - unless somebody can come up with a better idea for how to deal and "win" the votes of McCain + Collins + Grahamnesty and their ilk - that isn't happening & I've not seen any of the naysayers suggest ANYTHING possible or credible as to how such things - including the wall - could possibly be accomplished - and not even completed - but STARTING NOW ... like on MONDAY :)

Meanwhile there is ongoing + increasing STORM that has to be accounted for - that has numerous financial + logistical quagmires of its own that is largely dealt with through the OMNIBUS that nobody outside these threads has even contemplated to consider. IMO that's also part of the PLAN - I don't see anybody complaining that everything that is needed for the military to proceed with the PLAN and course for GITMO is now fully funded & proceeding.

As "Q" has guided ...

Expand your thinking.

MAGA __/\__ KAG!   :)

1,604 posted on 03/24/2018 9:32:50 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.; ransomnote; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; ...

see #1604

MAGA


1,628 posted on 03/24/2018 9:49:34 AM PDT by bitt (The first to squeal gets the best deal.)
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To: Steven W.

,FYI Just read. Army Corp Of Engineers has been working since last July on the wall Also found several about new materials being invented and used instead of concrete. (Too many to list. )But DJT would not only know about them but probably know their inventors and manufacturers

Time we all think outside of the box.


1,636 posted on 03/24/2018 9:54:29 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: Steven W.; Cboldt
The Omnibus restricts concrete application to the 'Wall'.

President has mentioned several times that we need to see through the Wall to the other side --> no wall concrete needed.

Concrete can be used for foundational concrete piles for anchoring and fortification because that's not above-ground 'wall' structure. If Schmuck Schumer disagrees and wants a bloody nose, he can bring it.

Steel grated walls with electronic security will do just fine

The above perimeter security fencing was used at the DNC convention to keep protestors out. The President can order it be made higher and more secure while tweeting that he will be using the same type of security fence the democrats used to keep their critics at bay while his walled perimeter will be keeping violent criminals out of the US. Big difference.

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The Omnibus prohibits adding more border control agents. This one's easy. No additional border control are needed. Just take up Sheriff Joe's propose flooding of sanctuary cities and direct them to border patrol ops. Block grant states to hire more state border police to supplement US Border Control in the enforcement of the border. Rapid response teams managed by state law enforcement can rush to a point in the border wall where an attempted breach is in progress.

There are dozens of ways to get the job done that don't trigger violating moronic Omnibus prohibitions.

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Lastly, the Omnibus lasts for a relatively short time. After the midterms, the left will be hammered mercilessly as a permanent Wall and agent funding budget is established.

1,715 posted on 03/24/2018 11:22:45 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Steven W.

bump


2,015 posted on 03/24/2018 5:07:18 PM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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