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Inter-galactic family feud: Elon Musk has called his father 'evil'...
Daily Mail ^ | 18 March 2018 | Barbara Jones

Posted on 03/18/2018 1:37:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

Face it, son, you're just a wimp!

21 posted on 03/18/2018 2:51:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
He's smart, but he isn't always right. The Tesla Model 3 production is constrained by a single chokepoint, the gigafactory where it is being made; the lack of a nationwide dealer network hasn't seemed to slow them down, nor has the rising price of battery components. But the car won't be able to be made in the quanities claimed, and are not being sold at the supposed price.

SpaceX on the other hand has succeeded in everything thus far, other than meeting a timetable (meeting one didn't help Mussolini), and while I think trying to colonize Mars will wind up killing a lot of marks, er, I mean, colonists, Americans will be living there (and dying there) decades before anyone else, which is going to be a big achievement. He'll never get the BFR suborbital service off the ground, and should just scrap the idea now.

22 posted on 03/18/2018 2:56:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: jarwulf
Yeah, he's tricked the gov't into saving money on space access, and will continue to do so, while erstwhile Democrat Alabama politicians are porking everyone with their pork barrel politics.

23 posted on 03/18/2018 2:59:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

I agree he’s a genius.

But so is the Dad. Errol seems like a real stud. Some rivalry is understandable.


24 posted on 03/18/2018 3:04:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Moonman62
The FH launch really took long chances, as well -- the side boosters were mismatched in that one was Block 3 and the other Block 4; the core, which is a new booster based on the Block 5, failed to stick the landing, but that probably shouldn't surprise anyone. :^) There are three launches scheduled for it, but seven are required for man-rating. And without man-rating, he and SpaceX ain't goin' to Mars.

25 posted on 03/18/2018 3:04:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Falcon Heavy isn’t intended to send people to Mars.

Regardless, they’ll get more orders for the FH.


26 posted on 03/18/2018 3:52:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s always about old men with young girls.

For both of them - who cares. Fall down a flight of stairs.


27 posted on 03/18/2018 3:53:00 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: piasa
I tend to believe the father since the son’s obviously exaggerating and because that stunt with the space car was definitely childish - albeit funny - not to mention wasteful.

The story I read was that SpaceX offered NASA an opportunity to put a payload on the rocket, and NASA declined. Then SpaceX offered the Air Force an opportunity to put a payload on the rocket, and the Air Force also declined.

Ordinary satellite investors didn't want to risk putting a 100 million dollar satellite on an experimental rocket, so they all declined.

The rocket still needed a payload to demonstrate what it was capable of, so Musk decided to launch his own personal car on the rocket because he knew it would be talked about, and therefore would be a good marketing scheme. Yes, they could have loaded concrete weights on the payload, but as a marketing tool, the car and manikin were a stroke of brilliance.

Now that the rocket worked as promised, other parties will not be so skittish about taking a risk with their expensive payloads.

28 posted on 03/18/2018 4:09:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Pontiac
I’m glad that I am not the only one that thought it was a waste of a good booster.

See my previous post.

29 posted on 03/18/2018 4:10:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SunkenCiv

A lot of kids that are angry with their parents act like this. Spoiled child sounds about right.


30 posted on 03/18/2018 4:15:53 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: SunkenCiv
I currently do not believe it is possible to live on Mars for longer than short durations. Various studies have shown that the human body needs gravity to remain healthy. We know that people cannot live in weightlessness for spans much longer than a year or so, and I expect we would see a slow atrophy of health for anyone trying to live on the much lower gravity of Mars.

Now I may be mistaken about this, and perhaps it will be found that Mars has sufficient gravity for the human body to exist in a healthy condition. But I doubt it.

Also the radiation is pretty bad.

31 posted on 03/18/2018 4:16:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; Pontiac; WMarshal; piasa; Moonman62

If the car stunt captures the imagination of young people and leads them into technology it was wonderful. We need more of that.

Regardless of his motives.

Personally, I think it was brilliant. But I’m a long time technology entrepreneur so it appeals to me. When I grew up we had chemistry and erector sets. I watched as we landed on the moon, inspired by Heinlein and Asimov.


32 posted on 03/18/2018 4:35:34 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY
I agree. Inspiration will get more science done because humans are goal oriented. The Science is just the means. Without the goal, the means are irrelevant to most people.

Loved Heinlein and Asimov, and all the other greats in science fiction.

33 posted on 03/18/2018 4:43:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Pontiac

Musk is his company and his company is Musk in the same way that President Trump is his own brand.

More space stunts please!


34 posted on 03/18/2018 5:36:26 PM PDT by WMarshal (Molon Labe!)
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To: Moonman62

They won’t because they won’t build any more of them. That’s the point. SpaceX will need a man-rating and before their competitors — not least because you know strings will be pulled for them.


35 posted on 03/18/2018 7:16:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

SpaceX is going to use the Falcon 9 block 5 for their first man rating.

The Falcon Heavy may or may never be man rated.

The second SpaceX rocket to get man rated will most likely be the BFR, which will be more powerful than the Saturn V.


36 posted on 03/18/2018 7:38:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: x

Elon Musk should read: The 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: by Jordan B. Peterson...


37 posted on 03/18/2018 8:21:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (FBI: How many liberal groups were investigated compared to conservative groups? Agent Lois Lerner?)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I think the point of his "The Boring Company" was not just to bore tunnels for mass transit on Earth, but also to use the capability on Mars. Instead of big glass domes (which he actually mentioned not long ago) Earthlings will be living underground at least part of the time, and for the rest of their lives on the Red Planet.

38 posted on 03/19/2018 6:22:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
I think the point of his "The Boring Company" was not just to bore tunnels for mass transit on Earth, but also to use the capability on Mars. Instead of big glass domes (which he actually mentioned not long ago) Earthlings will be living underground at least part of the time, and for the rest of their lives on the Red Planet.

I applaud Musk's efforts to date, but I wonder about this underlying premise that humans can exist in the absence of normal gravity. The bone and muscle atrophy we see in long stays on the space station indicate that gravity is a necessary part of human health.

I would surmise that degradation would occur more slowly on Mars, but I also think it would inevitably occur.

What do you think about this gravity problem? Will the lower gravity on Mars kill people?

39 posted on 03/19/2018 7:47:48 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: jarwulf

Elon’s greatest technical innovation has been eliminating the smokestack from coal powered automobiles.


40 posted on 03/19/2018 7:51:00 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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