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The Media Bias Chart (Check your bias?)
All Generalizations are False ^ | Vanessa Otero

Posted on 03/09/2018 11:00:33 AM PST by rpierce

I ran across this "Media Bias" chart today out on the interwebs. My first response upon examining it closely was that I had entered some kind of reality distortion field. I decided to go to the source to check out the thinking and methodology.

It's worth reading through as an intellectual exercise. The author/creator Vanessa Otero, an admittedly "moderately liberal" patent attorney in Denver, has created the All Generalizations are False site supporting the chart. While finding much to disagree with in her finished product, I found her writing interesting, reasonable, and instructive.

Here's a MarketWatch article that gives their take on it.


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
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Dig in and challenge yourself. Think of the millions of people that look at this chart and see it utterly and completely differently than you do.
1 posted on 03/09/2018 11:00:33 AM PST by rpierce
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2 posted on 03/09/2018 11:03:36 AM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now?)
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The MSM is overwhelmingly neutral and focused on accurately reporting facts.

Good to know.


3 posted on 03/09/2018 11:06:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The government cannot protect you and isn't even trying. Self-defense is a right.)
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Uh, the degree of repulsion generated by the mention of the word “attorney” is exceeded only by that generated by saying the word “journalist”.

As if any of us gives a shi...er...Obama.

(Apologies to the very many good and honest attorneys out there.)


4 posted on 03/09/2018 11:06:55 AM PST by Da Coyote
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If you look at this chart and are convinced your “extreme” source belongs in the middle, you just might be part of the problem plaguing America today.

I look at the chart and am convinced that the person who created the chart is part of the problem plaguing America today because he/she put CNN in the middle of the chart.

5 posted on 03/09/2018 11:08:18 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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A media bias chart that says CNN is neutral and fair...


6 posted on 03/09/2018 11:09:24 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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FAKE chart!

CNN, AP, Reuters, all fall in the neutral zone.

Apparently, the creator of that chart must be of the most biased extreme left position. To believe any part of that chart, you have to be completely out of your mind. But then, that’s what defines liberals and socialists and Marxists, so, to them, it’s totally believable.


7 posted on 03/09/2018 11:09:40 AM PST by adorno
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If I imagine for a moment that conservative views are not ultimately neutral and be as ‘centrist’ as possible I would tug the string all the logos are sitting on till the blaze and breitbart were somewhere on the upper half of the right leg to be honest.


8 posted on 03/09/2018 11:15:18 AM PST by jarwulf
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MSNBC on a par with “Mother Jones”! LOL.


9 posted on 03/09/2018 11:20:07 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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Gotta love how she thinks CBS News, PBS and Time are all slightly right of center...


10 posted on 03/09/2018 11:22:12 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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Knee slapping funny that NPR and the 3 majors are neutral and Fox News is propaganda.

Even if you are a liberal you have to be intellectually dishonest to not see the bias in NBC for example.


11 posted on 03/09/2018 11:32:38 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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“All generalizations are false” is a generalization, therefore false by its own definition.


12 posted on 03/09/2018 11:33:39 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Hence the Twain quote on her site:
All generalizations are false, including this one.
–Mark Twain

:)
13 posted on 03/09/2018 11:41:51 AM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now?)
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I did. She starts from nonsense and produces nonsense. This is the twilight zone of the left


14 posted on 03/09/2018 11:45:02 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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I think the characterization of Newsmax, Breitbart, The Blaze, the Daily Caller, Fox News, the Daily Wire, and Conservative Tribune as "nonsense damaging to the public discourse", in the same class as "Occupy Democrats" and the National Enquirer, shows the bias of the chart itself.

And OAN, the Daily Mail, and the New York Post are considered "unfair interpretations of the news"? Really? More evidence of the chartmakers' bias.

And CNN, MSNBC, and Mother Jones are "fair"???

Are these people serious?

15 posted on 03/09/2018 11:45:11 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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That is hilarious.


16 posted on 03/09/2018 12:21:59 PM PST by Trillian
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The planted axiom in the
“Fact Reporting/Original Fact Reporting” = "Neutral +/- a ‘skew’”
categorization is the assumption that journalism is objective. Whereas in fact every journalist, and any journalism consumer who pays attention, knows that “If it bleeds, it leads.” That is, journalism is slanted to the negative. Unless of course you count the advertisements, which only proves the point - you have to pay journalists to report good news.

But note, Dear Reader, that the assumption of journalistic objectivity is therefore an assumption that “negativity = objectivity.” And that “the conceit that negativity is objectivity” is a very serviceable definition of cynicism.

Cynicism is the opposite of faith, and as Thomas Paine pointed out in Common Sense, there is a very significant sense in which “government” and “society” are opposites. “Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil . . .” It follows that cynicism towards society corresponds to faith in government. And that is precisely the combination which is observed in “objective, Original Fact Reporting.”

And the combination of cynicism towards society (a.k.a., “the market”) and naive faith in government is the defining characteristic of “liberalism.” Conservatism, OTOH, is skeptical - not cynical, but skeptical - of both society and government. Conservatism’s skepticism of government demands limits on government - but conservatism’s skepticism of society demands some government. It is conservatism which is moderate, and “liberalism” which is extreme.


17 posted on 03/09/2018 1:36:06 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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[Think Tank Citations as] A Measure of Media Bias
18 posted on 03/09/2018 1:40:28 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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Gotta love how she thinks CBS News, PBS and Time are all slightly right of center..

The "center" must be someone like Jill Stein or Bernie Sanders by this scale.

This chart is a waste of bandwidth. I would rather rely on Infowars, Breitbart, or Drudge than the ever-lying enemedia.

19 posted on 03/09/2018 1:41:47 PM PST by Wallace T.
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It is easy to find quotes from prominent journalists and academics who claim that there is no systematic bias among media outlets in the U.S. . . .

Although we expected to find that most media lean left, we were astounded by the degree. A norm among journalists is to present both sides of the issue. Consequently, while we expected members of Congress to cite primarily think tanks that are on the same side of the ideological spectrum as they are, we expected journalists to practice a much more balanced citation practice, even if the journalist's own ideology opposed the think tanks that he or she is sometimes citing. This was not always the case. Most of the mainstream media outlets that we examined (ie all those besides Drudge Report and Fox News Special Report) were closer to the average Democrat in Congress than they were to the median member of the House.

Our results contrast strongly with the prior expectations of many others.

[Think Tank Citations as] A Measure of Media Bias

20 posted on 03/09/2018 1:49:52 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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