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Do some gun owners really believe ... the government is planning to take away all the guns?
Quora ^ | 6 March 2018 | Max Haghighi

Posted on 03/08/2018 7:33:06 AM PST by Steely Tom

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I started using (and to some extent contributing to) Quora in 2015. It started out pretty good, a little like FR in its early days.

At some point early in 2016 (I think it was around the time that PDJT started to look like he had a shot to actually become the Republican nominee), Quora took a sharp and obvious turn to the left, if only because there suddenly began to show up numerous "questions" that were just thinly-disguised anti-Trump political screeds. Since then, about one-third of the "questions" (all Quora threads must have a title that is expressed in the form of a question) are political, the vast majority obviously from the left-wing perspective. It's a little like a push-poll.

There are some conservatives at Quora, I don't know how many. Certainly a minority. Some are very good (although no better than many of the posters here at FR). I refrain from engaging in political discussions at Quora; I use it to indulge in discussions about science and engineering, which are my main passion in life.

Anyway, this essay by an Iranian at Quora was exceptionally good, and I hope you like it.

By the way, many of the people involved in Quora are from other countries; Indian people in particular are big users.

There are many questions that are obviously typed in directly from homework assignments. They are usually answered very capably.

1 posted on 03/08/2018 7:33:06 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: Steely Tom

No, they couldn’t do it, if they can’t get rid of 30 million illegal aliens, how do they think they can get rid of 300+million guns?


2 posted on 03/08/2018 7:34:53 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Great point! They also can't get rid of drugs, and they've been illegal for decades.

The whole argument is nonsense. "Boob bait for the bubbas," as Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, although aimed at a different set of bubbas.

3 posted on 03/08/2018 7:38:38 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Steely Tom

See NYC and Chicago for examples


4 posted on 03/08/2018 7:40:51 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
It's not that they can't get rid of 30 million illegals, it's that they won't. I think it would take about a year to send them all back if there was the political will.
5 posted on 03/08/2018 7:46:19 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Because the aliens are ILLEGAL! They are here contrary to the laws of this country and they continue to defy those laws with their presence and actions...

Most US gun owners are law-abiding and some of them don't know or understand when a law passed by a leftist government that is contrary to the US Constitution is an attack on their (our) basic rights. The excuse will be : "It's the law, and you have to register/turn in your guns. If you don't like that, take it up with the government that passed the law."

The enforcers of these illegal laws will use the same excuse the Nazis did at their trials: "I was only following orders!".

SOrry, this is one slippery slope that I refuse to slide on...

6 posted on 03/08/2018 7:48:41 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: Steely Tom

That was a very good read. Thank you for posting.


7 posted on 03/08/2018 7:49:17 AM PST by BBQToadRibs
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To: Steely Tom

There are ways for the govt to get the guns. If there were a govt-created famine, for instance, and the govt gave food in exchange for turned-in weapons.


8 posted on 03/08/2018 7:52:10 AM PST by lurk
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To: Steely Tom

It’s the dying wish for gun grabbers.


9 posted on 03/08/2018 7:53:21 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Steely Tom

If you don’t believe the government wants to do away with private ownership of firearms, you have not been paying attention.
It has designs on us that it cannot attempt while we can still shoot back.
The most basic of these is seizure of 401ks and IRAs for ‘protection’ and redistribution.


10 posted on 03/08/2018 7:53:23 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

No, they don’t need to get rid of guns, all they have to do is pass laws to make their use illegal and thus virtually unusable, even in self-defense.

Then, like in other countries, guns will slowly go away as their utility, risk, and cost to honest people will gradually make it ‘not worth it’.

And then, with relatively few people owning guns, they can come in for the ‘final solution’ and go door-to-door with dogs, if they need to. And don’t worry, they’ll already know who the ‘resisters’ will be and they’ll have them easily outgunned.

As to the Second Amendment - it may still be there, but Leftist judges have made it PERFECTLY CLEAR that it is meaningless to them...so if they get their majority on the bench it is as good as gone. The Second Amendment only helps when conservatives rule the bench, it has no meaning to liberals...just doesn’t exist.

BOTTOM LINE - people need to think VERY HARD before agreeing to any restrictions on guns as that only pushes us that much closer to the point of confiscation being possible.


11 posted on 03/08/2018 7:55:09 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Trump.Deplorable; Steely Tom
if they can’t get rid of 30 million illegal aliens...

They also can't get rid of drugs...

What you are both missing in these equations is the willpower. The gov't has neither the will, nor actively desires the removal of either of these things. Once they actively desire something, they will have the ability to do it--or at least attempt to do it.

Once they get serious about guns, they will start confiscating them. It may turn into a war, they may go about it slowly enough that war won't actually erupt. I don't know.

I do know, though, that guns, illegals, and drugs are in this country because the gov't wants them here. Chaos, turmoil, and crime demonstrate a need for gov't. They are merely perpetuating that need among the people so that we will not be quite so eager to rebel, and we may not be so eager to resist when they come for our stuff--whatever stuff they may want.

12 posted on 03/08/2018 7:55:59 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Steely Tom

“the government”? No

Multiple politicians and many “political players” - absolutely.


13 posted on 03/08/2018 7:57:25 AM PST by TheBattman (Voting for lesser evils still gets you evil...)
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To: Steely Tom
The power of the 2nd amendment is what keeps our other rights safe.

So true... without the 2nd Amendment, we wouldn't have been able to keep the 1st (it's been hard enough to keep the 1st Amendment, even though we DO have the right to keep and bear arms).

14 posted on 03/08/2018 8:04:54 AM PST by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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I live in California. I’m convinced that the state government at least WANTS to take our guns away.


15 posted on 03/08/2018 8:07:41 AM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: Trump.Deplorable
if they can’t get rid of 30 million illegal aliens
That's because they don't want to :)

how do they think they can get rid of 300+million guns?
Because they DO want to :)

I truly accept your observation as valid; I just wanted to add the motivational aspects.

16 posted on 03/08/2018 8:10:28 AM PST by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: lurk

“If there was a govt created famine”

In the event of a famine the govt could not provide enough food for one large city.


17 posted on 03/08/2018 8:13:19 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Steely Tom

Yeh, there be bear in dem dar woods!
Sums it Up!
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See George B. Shaw’s quote!
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18 posted on 03/08/2018 8:13:35 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Steely Tom

Agree with your remarks about Quora.

Thanks for posting the article. Someone should send it to Rick Scott, Dannell Malloy, Chris Murphy and Jim Himes as a start.


19 posted on 03/08/2018 8:16:40 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Steely Tom

FL Gop ran a trial ballon in FL this week .

They grabbed them .


20 posted on 03/08/2018 8:19:22 AM PST by ncalburt (pidaste)
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