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CIA Downgraded from Agency to Department, under the NSA..?

Posted on 03/01/2018 3:33:19 PM PST by gaijin

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To: Lopeover

This last time it was for a confirmation vote, Deputy Director of OMB.

With John McCain AWOL and refusing to resign, the Republicans have only a 50-49 margin. If they are missing one vote for any other reason they are in jeopardy of losing on said bill or appointment. Crappy.


41 posted on 03/01/2018 4:58:41 PM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: gaijin

I would highly doubt this.


42 posted on 03/01/2018 5:04:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: spokeshave

Fake news


43 posted on 03/01/2018 5:59:26 PM PST by sagar
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To: gaijin

Seems odd to me.

First off, “Departments” typically have “Secretaries” running them who are part of the President’s Cabinet. So, Department would actually be kind of lateral. Maybe they meant “bureau”.

Second, I don’t see any value in this unless the gov has been picking up so much intel, domestic as well as foreign, thanks to scooping up all phone and internet traffic, that human intel has been devalued, which I find hard to believe.

Who the f knows.


44 posted on 03/01/2018 6:07:19 PM PST by fruser1
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The NSA as sinister as it may seem isn't rogue.

William Binney knows more about he NSA than you, and doesn't agree. They were turned on Americans like the Stasi after 9/11.

45 posted on 03/01/2018 6:14:01 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: gaijin

Highly unlikely. The National Security Agency is military while the CIA is civilian and under federal law.


46 posted on 03/01/2018 6:23:09 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto; Gunslingr3
"CIA is civilian and under federal law"

no it's not

Gunslingr: I agree with you and William Binney they're running an unconstitutional system. I believe NSA are following what they're told by our congress. That isn't rogue

47 posted on 03/01/2018 6:56:25 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

No kidding!

I should have said it’s authorized by Congress. It’s likely dramatic reform would require Congressional authorization.


48 posted on 03/01/2018 7:16:37 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I believe NSA are following what they're told by our congress. That isn't rogue

Then why did Clapper get caught lying to Congress?

49 posted on 03/01/2018 7:38:21 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I disagree. Now CIA scumbags will get promoted into NSA positions and screw that up from the inside too.


50 posted on 03/01/2018 8:30:38 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I dont believe it for a second. Truman was a scumbag. We can see by the other things he was involved in that he had no good intentions. The CIA did just what it was set up to do.


51 posted on 03/01/2018 8:36:25 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Truman said it never the less. but I agree he didn’t do anything about it thus he still thought it was a good idea.


52 posted on 03/01/2018 10:38:54 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Gunslingr3

The NSA is sinister organization. you’re not going to get an argument from me.


53 posted on 03/01/2018 10:41:06 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: lee martell

Downsize?
HOw about eliminating these agencies by defunding them and putting their many criminals in prison?
Worthless bunch of obammy hacks.
IF we had a real justice dept they would be using the RICO act to investigate the too many illegal things obammys feds did and continue doing.
But alas the justice dept has been criminalized too and is f-ing worthless.


54 posted on 03/02/2018 4:01:00 AM PST by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Enchante

McCain will remain a traitor until his dying breath, and maybe longer.


55 posted on 03/02/2018 4:13:54 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The NSA is sinister organization. you’re not going to get an argument from me.

I think our disagreement revolves around whether or not NSA is operating in a Congressionally mandated manner. Clapper's lies to Congress demonstrate unequivocally that they are indeed rogue. He only 'revised' those comments after the Snowden leak showed what they were actually up to.

56 posted on 03/02/2018 5:13:38 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: gaijin

IMO the NSA is no better.


57 posted on 03/02/2018 8:54:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: gaijin

This was speculation based on MIRROR of prior “Q” posts. However recent memo from Trump last week gave Rogers + SoS power to effect. The big indicator will be whether Trump tweets about the Storm after Billy Graham memorial. TBD ;)


58 posted on 03/02/2018 9:50:52 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: gaijin

Bookmark


59 posted on 03/04/2018 7:08:54 AM PST by Cats Pajamas
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