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'They beat our a--es': Russian mercenaries talk about humiliating defeat by US in reportedly [tr]
Business Insider ^ | February 26, 2018 | Alex Lockie

Posted on 02/27/2018 1:34:29 AM PST by C19fan

Leaked audio recordings said to be of Russian mercenaries in Syria capture expressions of lament and humiliation over a battle in early February involving US forces and Russian nationals. Published by Polygraph.info — a fact-checking website produced by Voice of America and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, news organizations that receive funding from the US government — the audio recordings paint a picture of Russian mercenaries essentially sent to die in an ill-conceived advance on a US-held position in Syria. Polygraph says the audio recordings are from a source close to the Kremlin.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: russia; syria; waronterror
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There has to be some Russian joke about this but I am not clever enough.
1 posted on 02/27/2018 1:34:29 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
There has to be some Russian joke about this but I am not clever enough.

Fools Russian where angels fear to tread.

2 posted on 02/27/2018 1:44:24 AM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: C19fan

While it’s nice to hear our military doing well, I worry about the pro-war undertones in the news. I don’t want to fight Russia anywhere, and I don’t want us fighting anyone in Syria, yet the establishment cheers for a war against Russia in Syria. No, thank you!


3 posted on 02/27/2018 1:46:50 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: C19fan

If Assad needs his fanny kicked , let Israel do it.

I will be the whole trumpet section.

this isn’t any of our business.


4 posted on 02/27/2018 1:59:03 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Pollster1

Not quite.

This is a situation where demarcation lines were drawn and Russia violated them. They knew not to entangle with troops that were fighting ISIS is specific areas that have US Special Ops embedded.

They gambled and lost badly. Putin doesn’t mind gambling with Russian lives.


5 posted on 02/27/2018 1:59:33 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: C19fan

I wish I could believe this stuff. It sounds like CIA propaganda to me. It sounds like a set up to make the US population think any war with Russia would be an easy win.

Why do they want us in a war with Russia?


6 posted on 02/27/2018 2:45:31 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: C19fan

That our troops were successful in tuning back the Russian-Iranian advance across the Euphrates demarcation line (jointly drawn by US and Russia) was due mostly to surprise. The Russians had no air cover. Next time they will.

The 57s will guide the 35s in on US planes and their longer range BVR missiles will do the deed, while the 25s take on the ground troops. Throw in some TOSS-1As and the surprise could go the other way.


7 posted on 02/27/2018 3:00:14 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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From the tape:

“... about 215 f—k killed. They simply rolled ours out f—ked hard. Made their point. What the f—k ours were hoping for in there?! That they will f—king run away themselves? Hoped to f—king scare them away? Lots of people f—ked so bad [they] can’t be f—king ID’d. There was no foot soldiers [on the American side]; they simply f—ked our convoy with artillery.”

So it was likely true that the hospitals in St Pete and Moscow were full.


8 posted on 02/27/2018 3:09:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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”the advance's purpose was to test the US's response.”

Well, how did you like it, bitches?

9 posted on 02/27/2018 3:19:04 AM PST by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: PIF

If your scenario pans out to be true someday, then that will lead to a broad escalation and open war between Russia and the US. Trump would almost be forced to escalate unless he does the wise thing and simply pulls us out. Either way he gets attacked as a war monger or a coward, it becomes an untenable position for him to be in, politically speaking!


10 posted on 02/27/2018 3:20:28 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: 60Gunner

The Interwebs: You won them today. LOL


11 posted on 02/27/2018 3:25:05 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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What the hell are we even doing in Syria? What do we have to gain from this? I don't trust Russia, but I don't trust our deep state either. If this report is true it's obvious there are far more serious things going on behind the scenes than what we are hearing. We have problems over here that eclipse the crap we're dealing with over there. We will suddenly be involved in a major war if the deep state starts feeling too much pressure.
12 posted on 02/27/2018 3:27:00 AM PST by LeeClementineKenny (TRUMP 2020! - Make America Great Again! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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"...There was no foot soldiers [on the American side]; they simply f—ked our convoy with artillery.”

Would that be the Marine Corps 155mm batteries, or did they pull out and get replaced by US Army assets?

13 posted on 02/27/2018 3:31:32 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: PIF

One other point....a 500 man attempted attack on a US held positon is a major operation. The Americans now know to be aware that the Russians are willing to try major force against them. The Americans will be very difficult to surprise and dislodge along the lines you describe. The Russians now have to understand that they have majorly “PO’ed the Americans over there and I suspect an increased chill in Trump’s efforts to try to constructively engage with Russia will settle in. Trump almost has to put distance between us and Russia now. This is a major incident of aggression against us! Putin was playing chess by sending out his pawn mercenaries, but we don’t play chess, we play sledgehammer smash on the chessboard!


14 posted on 02/27/2018 3:38:34 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: PIF

As for aircover...they bring their air cover in another attack with targeting missiles on our aircraft, we will bring everything in and now you have an airwar in the sky in addition to battles on the ground. We will be expecting what you describe and things will massively escalate. The back channel diplomacy lines must be white hot right now!


15 posted on 02/27/2018 3:43:52 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: Vermont Lt

The million dollar question most definitely.


16 posted on 02/27/2018 3:55:19 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: LeeClementineKenny; All

Pride has always been man’s undoing. Deep state guys feeling as though they have the levers of control fully in their hands always reach a place of miscalculation, to the misfortune of the regular populace. I fear we shall pay a heavy price for dropping our guard and our national virtue(like the OT described Israel once “as being discovered like prostitutes with their skirts over their faces with their nakedness exposed for all to see!”) by allowing these evil men and women to burrow in like weevils despoiling cotton! I fear the loss of life will be horrendous and our nation will be torn asunder.
Have we not even learned the lessons of history? We are going down paths that the Nazis took Germany...to their utter destruction.(The names are different but the patterns of behavior are the same)


17 posted on 02/27/2018 3:55:53 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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...the audio recordings paint a picture of Russian mercenaries essentially sent to die in an ill-conceived advance on a US-held position in Syria...

I shed no tears for dead Russians but again why are we there?

18 posted on 02/27/2018 3:56:54 AM PST by McGruff (#ObamaGate)
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I shed no tears for dead Russians but again why are we there?

Didn’t somebody say”to the victors goes the spoils” Oil


19 posted on 02/27/2018 4:02:59 AM PST by magua
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To: McGruff

ISIS for unteempth time.


20 posted on 02/27/2018 4:03:23 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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