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To: discostu

Sorry but I disagree completely. I could care less about making like cynical or killing off the old characters, SW was good v evil and if you think this movie “returned” sw to that, I don’t know what movie you were watching.

This movie left nothing that binary anywhere.

No one is evil and even Rey, who is “good” comes across as simply less cynical and naive than purely good.

There movie leave the audience with literally no reason to come back.. because it’s just going to be more shades of gray and nihilism.

About the only concept that isn’t completely destroyed is some vague notion of “hope”.. but even this is somewhat ephemeral.

There are plenty of execution issues that can be ripped apart, but the real problem is SW is no longer Good V Evil as of this movie...


32 posted on 01/01/2018 2:07:57 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

FIRST SW was good vs evil. Then Darth became Luke’s father and Ben’s student and it all started getting grey. Then you get the prequel trilogy and midicholorians and the chosen one and raw Jedi incompetence and the Jedi screwing over Anakin. By the time Darth screams NOOOOOO it’s all grey. This movie bring back binary, and a big part of that is acknowledging that the Jedi just ain’t all that.

There’s plenty of evil folks in LJ, Kylo Ren is full on evil by the end, they toyed around with him having an Anakin style redemption and he literally threw it away. Ren is evil, pure and simple. And Rey rejects it, she is good, pure and simple.

There’s plenty of reason to come back. And we all know you will. All this hollow posturing from whiney assed fans is so pathetic. 2 years ago the crowd was bitching about how stupid FA was and they weren’t coming back, and then they came back and are now bitching about how stupid LJ is and they’re not coming back. But you WILL come back, because you’re hooked. Also it’s going to be interesting to see how they handle it.

SW is more good v evil now than it has been in 37 years. And if you bothered to actually pay attention to what happened between “I am your father” and “nooooo” you’d know that.


58 posted on 01/01/2018 2:51:25 PM PST by discostu (let's do another bad one, cause I like it when the blood drains from Dave's face.)
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