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Iconic White House tree to be cut down
CNN ^ | December 26, 2017 | Kate Bennett

Posted on 12/26/2017 12:02:57 PM PST by mairdie

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To: niteowl77
Yeah, a few years back we had some group upset about the "old growth" forest being cut here in Michigan.

There ARE no old growth forest in Michigan. They were clear cut in the late 1800s.

I am planting American Chestnuts. I know I will have to probably baby most of them through the blight but I think it is worth it.

61 posted on 12/26/2017 1:59:07 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: lee martell
...each tree is somehow related to a “Mother Tree” or “Hub Tree”...

I have a faint memory from some obscure college class...the alder or birch...genus Betula?

Anyway, I've heard of what you speak of.

I'm not real sure I buy into it, but I've read of documented scientific findings of actual reactions within the "system", as in one tree being cut and reactions recorded quite a ways from that tree, suggesting a definite connection.

Maybe the tree huggers are on to something, huh?

62 posted on 12/26/2017 2:29:19 PM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: datricker; mairdie

The first thing Trump should do is to have a big sign made that says “Muellerberry” placed in front of the tree.

Next, they bring in one of those super modern Swedish tree cutting machines with the automated chainsaw and the grapple that holds the trunk that can cut through the trunk of the tree in about 9 seconds.

They they show Trump (in a suit, of course, and MAGA hardhat) at the controls of the machine cutting down the tree.

That would be completely hilarious.


63 posted on 12/26/2017 2:31:50 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

That is extraordinarily old for a magnolia.


64 posted on 12/26/2017 2:44:44 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: publius911

Good golly, miss Molly!

They’re hiding the misdeed!


65 posted on 12/26/2017 2:55:16 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: rlmorel

This was not far from my house. Druggie burned up a 3500 year-old tree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2652104/Model-burned-3-500-year-old-tree-called-The-Senator-high-meth-avoids-jail-time.html


66 posted on 12/26/2017 4:12:05 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: reg45
"In two hundred years, the replacement trees will be huge."

One can only speculate on what the Republic will be like then:


67 posted on 12/26/2017 4:23:24 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I remember that happening. Geez. To. Smoke. Meth.

Unbelievable.


68 posted on 12/26/2017 4:45:02 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: mairdie

>They can make White House furniture....<

As a secondary wood, to be upholstered over... Seen many examples of this wood? It’s about as plain and blah as it gets. The only place where it excels is as a knife handle wood for fishermen who get everything wet. The wood has good non slip quality’s .


69 posted on 12/26/2017 5:09:21 PM PST by Joined2Justify (slice it)
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To: Joined2Justify
I don't know about the wood quality of magnolia, but I use poplar as a finished board wood, which everyone says should be painted, as my library wood because of its finished beauty. The trick, because it's a soft wood, is finding the trick to maintaining the grain before staining.








70 posted on 12/26/2017 5:21:02 PM PST by mairdie
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To: mairdie
After a brutal presidential campaign in 1828, Andrew Jackson's wife, Rachel, died just days after his election; according to historians, Jackson believed the particularly divisive campaign contributed to his wife's untimely demise. When he took up residence in the White House as a widower following his inauguration, it is believed Jackson insisted on planting a sprout from Rachel's favorite magnolia tree from the couple's farm, Hermitage, in Tennessee.

So use a tomahawk when you chop it down.

71 posted on 12/26/2017 5:31:39 PM PST by x
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To: niteowl77; mairdie

> I have found aerial maps that show no trees where there is now a thick belt of woods

Quite true, sir. I have heard the same thing from none other than Rush himself and I have seen the maps that verify the matter. In fact, if my memory serves, the number was quite remarkable, encompassing something like there are now something like 50% or so more trees than were to be found in the 1930’s or 40’s.

There are two maps that I just found that may provide some insight into the matter, the first being a comparative map of U.S virgin forests from 1620 to 1990. Needless to say, the 1620 North America was almost solid forest east of the Mississippi and quite densely populated in the north western part of the continent. By 1920 most of the forests are gone and by 1990 virtually all (I would estimate 97% or so are gone).

There’s only one problem with this view of what appears to be a great ecological disaster that has befallen the North American continent... It NEVER happened ! The initial premise behind the very real facts IGNORED the fact that NEW trees were planted and NEW forests sprang up so that today there is, in fact much more forested land than 100 or so years ago.

http://dew.globalsystemsscience.org/activities/investigations/what-is-a-digital-image/investigation-measuring-old-growth-forest-loss

https://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/20151214_agu5.png


72 posted on 12/27/2017 12:47:50 AM PST by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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To: CrazyIvan
You know that someone in the media will spin this somehow to slander him.

Another story says Melania ordered its removal....

73 posted on 12/27/2017 3:26:46 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: Little Pig

I grew up in the East. Magnolias are very fragile. I am surprised this one lasted this long. Probably due to the excellent care it received. If I remember correctly magnolias tend to be lightening magnets also.


74 posted on 12/27/2017 3:36:09 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mairdie; JoeProBono
It's a good time to remember *Herbie*

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and Frank Knight

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75 posted on 12/27/2017 3:46:20 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: rlmorel
Bertolt: An Uncommonly Tender Illustrated Story of Love, Loss, and Savoring Solitude Without Suffering Loneliness


76 posted on 12/27/2017 3:56:21 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: mairdie
The Pinchot Sycamore, in Simsbury, Connecticut. Worth a trip from anywhere. :)

I believe it is the largest tree in CT.


77 posted on 12/27/2017 4:02:58 AM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: Daffynition

Wow. Thanks for that link-that does seem like a tender story. Dealing with loss, kind of a sweet looking story. I may buy a copy for someone I know...

I do like trees, and hate to see them needlessly destroyed, but I am all on board for logging and use of trees for our needs.

And I admit, I had a tree cut down in my front yard that was a perfectly healthy tree, because my wife and I hated the tree. I like trees because I lay in my hammock at night, hearing the wind swishing through them, and during the day I like laying in my hammock and seeing the birds fly around in and through them. My wife is more utilitarian about them, and generally resents raking them, and since she does most of the cleaning of them from the flower beds and such. We usually get about 30 tall paper lawn waste bags from our quarter acre lot, so...I side with her on this.

Anyway, this a$$hole tree, think it it may have been a black walnut (which sounds like a nice tree, and it LOOKED nice...but isn’t) had tiny leaves (each leaflet was perhaps an inch or two long and half an inch to an inch wide) on each side of a long stem. When they fell, they fell onto the driveway, covering the cars, filling the wiper wells and covering the car and windows with these sodden masses of tiny leaves and stems that stuck like glue to everything even after just a slightly dewey morning.

Before you could drive your car, you had to use you hand to scoop handful after handful of the leaves out of the wiper wells and windscreen and throw them with disgust onto the lawn where they were nearly impossible to rake because they were so small and you had to swipe with the rake five times to clear a patch of lawn (versus one swipe for a maple) and then you had to use your hands to pick them up and bag them. Even more annoying, they covered the walkway into the house, which no matter how hard or diligently you wiped your feet, would still get tracked into the house.

Plus, its roots were destroying our driveway and walkway.

Bottom line, we both disliked this tree.

So, even though we weren’t totally committed to having it removed, we started calling around to get quotes. One tree removal company, called “Monkey Men” was scheduled to come out and deliver a quote. We came home, and...the tree was down, cut into pieces! We didn’t approve it, they just did it! We refused to pay them, because we weren’t even sure if we were going to do it, but it was a done deal. We went back and forth, and the Better Business Bureau had some bad things about these guys we hadn’t seen, so we were glad the tree didn’t end up on our house. Ended up getting it cut down for free!

Now it’s gone for many years, we finally replaced the driveway and walkway after all the roots rotted and collapsed, and...we have a very small flowering plum tree there where it used to be. All is good!


78 posted on 12/27/2017 4:50:12 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: ADemocratNoMore

I live in New England, and I was always puzzled by colonial paintings done during that time that showed no trees anywhere. A good example are paintings of the encounter in April 1775 at the Old North Bridge in Concord, MA.

They show the entire landscape completely devoid of trees, which always puzzled me (and made me think there was something wrong with those colonial painters!) until I asked about it, and a ranger told me that it accurately reflected that area as it was then...there had been so much land clearing for lumber and farming that there were miles of land that had very few trees.

Of course, that area where the bridge is now is completely forested, so it certainly doesn’t look like it did then!

So much interesting stuff in this respect. They have old colonial houses here that have flooring of extremely wide planks of wood, two feet wide or wider, which are kind of interesting to see, and we were told that these wide planks were a form of rebellion, in that the planks that wide were supposed to be reserved for The Crown, but trees would get felled and sawed without the knowledge or consent of the local authorities, and having those planks make up your floor was a statement...:)


79 posted on 12/27/2017 4:59:26 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: ADemocratNoMore

WONDERFUL RESEARCH!

THANK YOU!!


80 posted on 12/27/2017 6:10:28 AM PST by mairdie
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