Posted on 12/26/2017 12:02:57 PM PST by mairdie
There ARE no old growth forest in Michigan. They were clear cut in the late 1800s.
I am planting American Chestnuts. I know I will have to probably baby most of them through the blight but I think it is worth it.
I have a faint memory from some obscure college class...the alder or birch...genus Betula?
Anyway, I've heard of what you speak of.
I'm not real sure I buy into it, but I've read of documented scientific findings of actual reactions within the "system", as in one tree being cut and reactions recorded quite a ways from that tree, suggesting a definite connection.
Maybe the tree huggers are on to something, huh?
The first thing Trump should do is to have a big sign made that says “Muellerberry” placed in front of the tree.
Next, they bring in one of those super modern Swedish tree cutting machines with the automated chainsaw and the grapple that holds the trunk that can cut through the trunk of the tree in about 9 seconds.
They they show Trump (in a suit, of course, and MAGA hardhat) at the controls of the machine cutting down the tree.
That would be completely hilarious.
That is extraordinarily old for a magnolia.
Good golly, miss Molly!
Theyre hiding the misdeed!
This was not far from my house. Druggie burned up a 3500 year-old tree.
One can only speculate on what the Republic will be like then:
I remember that happening. Geez. To. Smoke. Meth.
Unbelievable.
>They can make White House furniture....<
As a secondary wood, to be upholstered over... Seen many examples of this wood? It’s about as plain and blah as it gets. The only place where it excels is as a knife handle wood for fishermen who get everything wet. The wood has good non slip quality’s .
So use a tomahawk when you chop it down.
> I have found aerial maps that show no trees where there is now a thick belt of woods
Quite true, sir. I have heard the same thing from none other than Rush himself and I have seen the maps that verify the matter. In fact, if my memory serves, the number was quite remarkable, encompassing something like there are now something like 50% or so more trees than were to be found in the 1930’s or 40’s.
There are two maps that I just found that may provide some insight into the matter, the first being a comparative map of U.S virgin forests from 1620 to 1990. Needless to say, the 1620 North America was almost solid forest east of the Mississippi and quite densely populated in the north western part of the continent. By 1920 most of the forests are gone and by 1990 virtually all (I would estimate 97% or so are gone).
There’s only one problem with this view of what appears to be a great ecological disaster that has befallen the North American continent... It NEVER happened ! The initial premise behind the very real facts IGNORED the fact that NEW trees were planted and NEW forests sprang up so that today there is, in fact much more forested land than 100 or so years ago.
https://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/20151214_agu5.png
Another story says Melania ordered its removal....
I grew up in the East. Magnolias are very fragile. I am surprised this one lasted this long. Probably due to the excellent care it received. If I remember correctly magnolias tend to be lightening magnets also.
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I believe it is the largest tree in CT.
Wow. Thanks for that link-that does seem like a tender story. Dealing with loss, kind of a sweet looking story. I may buy a copy for someone I know...
I do like trees, and hate to see them needlessly destroyed, but I am all on board for logging and use of trees for our needs.
And I admit, I had a tree cut down in my front yard that was a perfectly healthy tree, because my wife and I hated the tree. I like trees because I lay in my hammock at night, hearing the wind swishing through them, and during the day I like laying in my hammock and seeing the birds fly around in and through them. My wife is more utilitarian about them, and generally resents raking them, and since she does most of the cleaning of them from the flower beds and such. We usually get about 30 tall paper lawn waste bags from our quarter acre lot, so...I side with her on this.
Anyway, this a$$hole tree, think it it may have been a black walnut (which sounds like a nice tree, and it LOOKED nice...but isn’t) had tiny leaves (each leaflet was perhaps an inch or two long and half an inch to an inch wide) on each side of a long stem. When they fell, they fell onto the driveway, covering the cars, filling the wiper wells and covering the car and windows with these sodden masses of tiny leaves and stems that stuck like glue to everything even after just a slightly dewey morning.
Before you could drive your car, you had to use you hand to scoop handful after handful of the leaves out of the wiper wells and windscreen and throw them with disgust onto the lawn where they were nearly impossible to rake because they were so small and you had to swipe with the rake five times to clear a patch of lawn (versus one swipe for a maple) and then you had to use your hands to pick them up and bag them. Even more annoying, they covered the walkway into the house, which no matter how hard or diligently you wiped your feet, would still get tracked into the house.
Plus, its roots were destroying our driveway and walkway.
Bottom line, we both disliked this tree.
So, even though we weren’t totally committed to having it removed, we started calling around to get quotes. One tree removal company, called “Monkey Men” was scheduled to come out and deliver a quote. We came home, and...the tree was down, cut into pieces! We didn’t approve it, they just did it! We refused to pay them, because we weren’t even sure if we were going to do it, but it was a done deal. We went back and forth, and the Better Business Bureau had some bad things about these guys we hadn’t seen, so we were glad the tree didn’t end up on our house. Ended up getting it cut down for free!
Now it’s gone for many years, we finally replaced the driveway and walkway after all the roots rotted and collapsed, and...we have a very small flowering plum tree there where it used to be. All is good!
I live in New England, and I was always puzzled by colonial paintings done during that time that showed no trees anywhere. A good example are paintings of the encounter in April 1775 at the Old North Bridge in Concord, MA.
They show the entire landscape completely devoid of trees, which always puzzled me (and made me think there was something wrong with those colonial painters!) until I asked about it, and a ranger told me that it accurately reflected that area as it was then...there had been so much land clearing for lumber and farming that there were miles of land that had very few trees.
Of course, that area where the bridge is now is completely forested, so it certainly doesn’t look like it did then!
So much interesting stuff in this respect. They have old colonial houses here that have flooring of extremely wide planks of wood, two feet wide or wider, which are kind of interesting to see, and we were told that these wide planks were a form of rebellion, in that the planks that wide were supposed to be reserved for The Crown, but trees would get felled and sawed without the knowledge or consent of the local authorities, and having those planks make up your floor was a statement...:)
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