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Existence of UFO's 'proved beyond reasonable doubt' as expert says earth 'could have been visited'
mirror.co.uk ^ | Rhian Lubin

Posted on 12/24/2017 10:27:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: Bryanw92
Romans 8:19New Living Translation (NLT)

19 For all creation is waiting eagerly for that future day when God will reveal who his children really are.

Romans 8:19-21The Message (MSG)

18-21 That’s why I don’t think there’s any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. The created world itself can hardly wait for what’s coming next. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens. The Message (MSG)

Romans 8:19English Standard Version (ESV)

19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God.

Romans 8:19Amplified Bible (AMP)

19 For [even the whole] creation [all nature] waits eagerly for the children of God to be revealed.

Romans 8:19-21J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS) Present distress is temporary and negligible

18-21 In my opinion whatever we may have to go through now is less than nothing compared with the magnificent future God has planned for us. The whole creation is on tiptoe to see the wonderful sight of the sons of God coming into their own. The world of creation cannot as yet see reality, not because it chooses to be blind, but because in God’s purpose it has been so limited—yet it has been given hope. And the hope is that in the end the whole of created life will be rescued from the tyranny of change and decay, and have its share in that magnificent liberty which can only belong to the children of God!

Romans 8:19Good News Translation (GNT)

19 All of creation waits with eager longing for God to reveal his children.

Romans 8:19Living Bible (TLB)

19 For all creation is waiting patiently and hopefully for that future day[a] when God will resurrect his children. Footnotes:

Romans 8:19 waiting . . . for that future day, literally, “waiting for the revelation of the sons of God.”

Your assumptions (vs the Word of God) are showing again.

241 posted on 12/25/2017 2:31:38 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>Your assumptions (vs the Word of God) are showing again.

I asked a question. You can’t write assumptions on top of my question. but, as I look at your list of proof texts and the “translations” of the bible that you use, I see that you are a person (persons?) who always likes to imagine things that aren’t seen.

I assure you that my understanding of scripture comes from legitimate translations and the Westminster Confession only. The NLT, MSG, AMP, PHILLIP (??), GNT, and TLB are all milk bibles and not for serious discussion.


242 posted on 12/25/2017 2:37:54 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
Now you sound like you are rationalizing your own private interpretation. Sheesh. Doesn't matter what translation you use with this verse, they all are in the same ball park.

Romans 8:191599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

19 [a]For the fervent desire of the [b]creature waiteth when the sons of God shall be revealed,

Romans 8:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Romans 8:19Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

19 For the creation eagerly waits with anticipation for God’s sons to be revealed.

Romans 8:19Wycliffe Bible (WYC)

19 For the abiding of creature abideth the showing of the sons of God.

Romans 8:19Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

19 for the earnest looking out of the creation doth expect the revelation of the sons of God;

243 posted on 12/25/2017 2:45:48 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
We consider your INFERENCES from your reading/interpretation of Scripture to be ASSUMPTIONS.
244 posted on 12/25/2017 2:48:16 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
You have yet to show us any Scripture that precludes what you say Scripture precludes.
245 posted on 12/25/2017 2:50:44 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>We consider your INFERENCES from your reading/interpretation of Scripture to be ASSUMPTIONS.

I haven’t interpreted a single piece of scripture in this thread. I asked questions. I did interpret the Humanist position on scripture. But you are the one posting scripture, paranoid youtubes, and ridiculous rantings about some coming UFO revelation.


246 posted on 12/25/2017 2:51:29 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: RoosterRedux

And monkeys could have flown out of my butt.


247 posted on 12/25/2017 2:51:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bryanw92
You have made some all inclusive claims about what Scripture precludes without a single supporting shred of Scripture.

Enjoy your insults, BTW. We are used to them.

248 posted on 12/25/2017 2:53:29 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>You have yet to show us any Scripture that precludes what you say Scripture precludes.

Because I’m not talking about scripture. I’m talking about the belief systems of Existentialists and Humanists. I’m not one of these people who needs a proof text to go get a Coke from the fridge.


249 posted on 12/25/2017 2:53:59 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: JockoManning

>>Enjoy your insults, BTW. We are used to them.

LOL. I bet you are! I read your post on how Q took you and your hubby in.


250 posted on 12/25/2017 2:55:17 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92

We don’t have an infinite number of replies to you about this issue. We bother about it because we care about your eternal soul. We don’t want you abandoning your faith when realities on the near horizon are thoroughly different than you seem to remotely consider possible.


251 posted on 12/25/2017 2:55:27 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
You distorted that post, too.

Hubby and Qx were friends and shared a lot of similar attitudes, beliefs, perspectives, convictions about globalism, the end times and UFOs. Hubby was in intelligence, BTW.

After hubby died, and I began having so many nightmares about nuclear bombs going off over the nearby airbase, Q, then took me in. The rest is history.

252 posted on 12/25/2017 2:57:43 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>We don’t have an infinite number of replies to you about this issue. We bother about it because we care about your eternal soul. We don’t want you abandoning your faith when realities on the near horizon are thoroughly different than you seem to remotely consider possible.

You are crazy. I don’t believe in UFOs anymore because I do believe in God and in the finished work of Jesus on the cross. But the Humanists who corrupt scripture do believe in UFOs and their version of Comrade-Philosopher Jesus.


253 posted on 12/25/2017 2:57:55 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
You continue to FAIL to offer any Scriptural support for your assertions. Zip. Nada. Just your personal dogma. Your choice, obviously.

Sigh.

254 posted on 12/25/2017 3:00:09 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>You continue to FAIL to offer any Scriptural support for your assertions. Zip. Nada. Just your personal dogma. Your choice, obviously.

From the Book of Flying Saucers?? Is that in your apocrypha?


255 posted on 12/25/2017 3:01:10 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
...do believe in God and in the finished work of Jesus on the cross.

We hold strictly to that Blessed Hope and truth, as well.

BTW, we are greatly more grounded, than you seem able to imagine.

256 posted on 12/25/2017 3:01:53 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
It helps when your reading comprehension keeps up with what we are trying to say.

How many times do we need to affirm that the Bible is the paragon source of all truth in fact and certainly to us.

The UFO stuff is merely proof of the GREAT DECEPTION that Christ warned about in the Gospels. It is merely part of reality that all of us will have to contend with to greater or lesser degree probably sooner than later.

257 posted on 12/25/2017 3:03:53 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning
then you are poorly read, poorly informed.

Merry Christmas to you too, friend.

258 posted on 12/25/2017 3:04:48 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
LOL. The IF at the beginning of that sentence was a serious one.

Have a blessed rest of CHRISTmas and in the New Year with God's richest gifts in all your close relationships.

Cheers.

259 posted on 12/25/2017 3:06:26 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>The UFO stuff is merely proof of the GREAT DECEPTION that Christ warned about in the Gospels. It is merely part of reality that all of us will have to contend with to greater or lesser degree probably sooner than later.

Whew. I’m glad you FINALLY get it. I was saying the same thing before you started in with your paranoid attacks. Humanism and “star stuff” are purely satanic.

It’s always amusing how it is necessary to lead people like you back to the truth once you get it in your mind that someone else is wrong and MUST be corrected. It’s what makes the internet fun.


260 posted on 12/25/2017 3:10:17 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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