Report: Ford to end North American production of Fusion

Motor Authority ^ | Dec 14, 2017 | Viknesh Vijayenthiran

[mountn man]

Ford owned AM from 1989-2007.

Definitely “stole” some styling ques.

[mountn man]

The V6 was dropped from the Mustang in 2018.

The Ecoboost gets 310 hp vs 300 from the V6

The Ecoboost gets 21 city/30 highway mpg vs 18/27 from the V6

The Ecoboost gets 320 ft/lbs of torque at 3000 rpm
The V6 . . . gets 280 ft/lbs of torque at 4000 rpm

The Ecoboost is 2.3L vs the V6 3.7L

The Ecoboost MSRP for 2018 is $25,585 ($26,195 for 2017)
The V6 MSRP for 2017 is $25,185

There is no reason to have the V6 in the Mustang anymore.

[mountn man]

The base Mustang MSRP $25,585
The base Camaro MSRP. $25,905

The base Camaro comes w/ a turbo 4 cyl.
A v6 is a $1495 add on

I’m too lazy to look up Challenger specs.

[Comment Not Approved]

On my 2nd Ranger now. 2001 4.0 liter 4wd 5 speed manual. Just turned 152K. Just keeps running and still has excellent paint and interior. Love that little truck. Just tires, brakes and one new clutch at 66K after I taught my son to drive a stick. I bought it used with 33K from a young mother who needed more room for another car seat. I think she was hard on the first clutch or it would have lasted longer.

The new Ranger comes out in 2019 I think. Also has a diesel option engine. Saw a pic of it once and it looks bad ass.

[taildragger]

"Actually, there's a reason for this: Ford may be working on a new all-electric vehicle for after-2020 production that will replace the Fusion in the longer term. THAT model may be assembled at Ford's Hermosillo, Mexico assembly line, along with assembly lines in Europe, South America and eventually China."

Yes, it is public knowledge their next design cycle something like 13+ cars and many are electric. IMHO we are on the cusp of an Electric Car Revolution and no one see's it. The will be spring-boarded by Solid State Batteries aka no electrolyte with a host of ways of doing this. 1st gen of this type are rumored to show up 2020.

Case in point Brian Campbell of Solid Power just landed a Contract with BMW to partner on Solid-Power's Solid-State Battery for their future E-Cars.

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017/12/18/business/18reuters-bmw-solid-power.html

Now I didn't know this but NGK ( yes the spark plug people ) are a player in this space via ceramics as their element in the Solid-State Battery.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20171222/OEM05/171229928/solid-state-battery-development-ngk-japan

IMHO this will happen on PDJT's watch and spring-board even more MAGA as well, as we have to upgrade and or parallel infrastructure to accommodate this tipping point.....

BTW, these Solid-State batteries could have 1.5X to 3X the charging capacity and increases in range, they will be safer, no thermal run-away, and let's see if the charge times come down, as some are shooting for 5 to 10 minute charge time.

[taildragger]

"Ford is supposed to make a new Ranger at the Romeo, MI plant. They will also produce a new Bronco. I’m not sure either of these will be big sellers. Rumors on Bronco is they are watering it down from the 60’s styling and it will be more grocery getter than off-Road capable. Ranger is strange - the small pick up lines have gotten bigger in size. Instead of the ranger, why not buy an F-150 with excellent safety and value?"

Here is what the Outside of the America's version currently looks like which they will Americanize. I have seen these on the roads w/ manufacturer plates and she's a looker IMHO. The question begs, will the "Bronco" version be a true 2 door, or have the slightly funky 1/2 suicide door like the Toyota's and Honda's do that make it easier to get to the back seat.

[Dust in the Wind]

Drive a 2011 Fusion. V-6, 6 speed auto Front wheel drive. 100,500 miles. One recall which was a less than 30 minute software update. The way I drive it gets 30ish mpg but will put the miles by if needed. Redlines at 7K rpm in every gear except 6th. 3,200 there at 114mph. I love my little Mexican, her car also.

[Tallguy]

I think the Mustang will have 2 engine options: the 4-cyl turbo and a V6-twin turbo. I don’t see a V-8 in Ford’s passenger car lineup much longer.

[setha]

I saw that. Ford really seems to have forgotten that they’re from Detroit, not Dusseldorf or Dailang.

Regular fuel detuning and expensive turbochargers make the V6 a viable option - even if through other manufacturers.

[setha]

Then turbocharger delete would be an easy option.

[mountn man]

As long as trucks have V8’s, there will be V8s in some passenger cars.

There is a horsepower war going on between the big 3 right now, in their muscle cars.

In the end, there is no replacement for displacement.