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Why The Godfather Endures: Viewers are still beguiled by its fantasy of righteous vigilante justice.
National Review ^ | 12/05/2017 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 12/05/2017 7:16:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: V_TWIN
“a world in which problems are solvable by violence that can be controlled.”

Why, that’s islam isn’t it?

Honestly, I don't think Islam even tries to control its violence. However, I may be wrong.

Still furious about 9/11. I don't think anyone who was an adult and saw innocent people jumping to their deaths or dying in a collapsing inferno will really ever forgive this.

I am a Christian, and Jesus Christ would ask us to forgive, but this one is pretty big and hard to forgive/forget.

Then just when you seem to feel better, there are videos of innocents being beheaded or lowered, in a cage, into water. Or burned alive. Or gay people being thrown off of high buildings. I could go on ...

21 posted on 12/05/2017 7:37:57 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Very tired, on an existential level. We must continue to pray for our Republic.)
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To: bk1000
Some of us haven’t seen it.

What???? Unpossible.

22 posted on 12/05/2017 7:37:58 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: SeekAndFind
This is VERY selective analysis.

In any time when people perceive injustice in the law, these stories surface.

Before it was the mob, it was Tammany Hall, and before that the Liberty Boys.

Back when the Weimar Republic was losing its grip, you had "Threepenny Opera" (Bert Brecht being his usual subversive self) and "M" (the amazing movie with Peter Lorre as the child murderer that the police can't catch, so the underworld goes about it).

As far back as the Roman Empire and the Norse Edda, people wrestled with this idea of alternative justice. The Greeks probably did too but "Antigone" is not quite on point.

Old hat reworked as if it is something new. No perspective.

23 posted on 12/05/2017 7:38:10 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: proud American in Canada

Sonny: “Hey, listen, I want somebody good - and I mean very good - to plant that gun. I don’t want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his dick in his hands, alright?


24 posted on 12/05/2017 7:41:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not an expert, but I am betting that once you are in the Mob, it is practically impossible to get out.

At least Michael was a war hero; members of the Mob, though violent killers, were actually patriotic.

There was a great documentary series on the Discovery Channel, I think, called “The Making of the Mob.” Narrated by Ray Liotta. Definitely worth watching. Lots of history; very well made.


25 posted on 12/05/2017 7:42:28 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Very tired, on an existential level. We must continue to pray for our Republic.)
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To: central_va
Sonny: “Hey, listen, I want somebody good - and I mean very good - to plant that gun. I don’t want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his dick in his hands, alright?

LOL, literally! Gosh, I could watch this movie this afternoon if I could.

Any FReepers who haven't seen this movie really should. It is an important part of American cultural history.

26 posted on 12/05/2017 7:46:10 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Very tired, on an existential level. We must continue to pray for our Republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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27 posted on 12/05/2017 7:48:04 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: V_TWIN

I will look for III..it must be on Netflix.

In II, I felt so bad when that one person (don’t want to give away spoilers) was killed on ... well, you know. ;)

Okay, taking the afternoon off work to watch III. ;) Suddenly caught a bad case of the stomach flu. Wouldn’t want to spread it around. ;)


28 posted on 12/05/2017 7:49:52 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Very tired, on an existential level. We must continue to pray for our Republic.)
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To: V_TWIN

I will look for III..it must be on Netflix.

In II, I felt so bad when that one person (don’t want to give away spoilers) was killed on ... well, you know. ;)

Okay, taking the afternoon off work to watch III. ;) Suddenly caught a bad case of the stomach flu. Wouldn’t want to spread it around. ;)


29 posted on 12/05/2017 7:49:52 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Very tired, on an existential level. We must continue to pray for our Republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my lifetime there are only 3 movies I watch over and over. The Godfather, Jaws and Running Scared.


30 posted on 12/05/2017 7:52:40 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: FatherofFive
At least the Family were Americans. Not so for the DemocRats of today.

The real Mob was quite patriotic, especially in World War 2. I've read stories that the New Jersey Mob went to the government and offered to ensure the security of the waterfront in NY and NJ. How true these stories are, I'm not sure, but it makes perfect sense, IMHO.

31 posted on 12/05/2017 7:54:28 AM PST by ssaftler ("Tolerant liberals" is an oxymoron.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What if you could lord over a thriving business empire while having the people you don’t like strangled with piano wire?

If the price is that my children will mostly be violently killed, sometimes by my other children? No way! To me, the movie represented the superficial "glamour of evil" and the "pomps" of Satan. That is so clearly displayed when Michael is taking these vows against such that he is confirming his place in the family as the new Godfather.
32 posted on 12/05/2017 7:56:06 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Snickering Hound

That is me on FR.

Just when I thought I could ignore politics the leftist kooks drag me back into it.


33 posted on 12/05/2017 7:56:08 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Find “Brotherhood of the Bell”.

Bet you can’t watch it just once. :-)


34 posted on 12/05/2017 7:57:08 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: V_TWIN

“leave the gun....take the cannolies”

Supposedly that line was ad-libbed (the cannolis part, that is).


35 posted on 12/05/2017 8:00:02 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: FatherofFive

Hey George Will, I’ve got your “sparkling aperçus” right here (whatever the hell that is)!

The appeal lies in the contrast between two unsavory classes...gangsters and government. They both are doing the same crimes except one is doing so under the color of law.The other is saying shove your law....like prohibition. I root for the contrarians in this scenario because they leave the public at large the hell alone.


36 posted on 12/05/2017 8:03:50 AM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: V_TWIN

My favorite lines was Clemenza’s cooking lesson.

“Come over here, kid, learn something.”


37 posted on 12/05/2017 8:04:10 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The Godfather Trilogy are among my all-time favorite movies and I still watch them all the way through.


38 posted on 12/05/2017 8:06:16 AM PST by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: proud American in Canada
I am a Christian, and Jesus Christ would ask us to forgive, but this one is pretty big and hard to forgive/forget.

The Master forgave those who ASKED for forgiveness. Repentance is the #1 requirement. Luke 13:3 & 5

39 posted on 12/05/2017 8:07:04 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: central_va

As I understand it Clemenza (Richard S. Castellano) was written out of II after not being able to come to contract terms.


40 posted on 12/05/2017 8:16:13 AM PST by V_TWIN (oks like)
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